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between July 8 1947 the Army Air Force

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how quickly our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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on the GameChanger radio network and a

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good evening faint black the spoke radio

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for the masses yeah man how you doing

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fade to black today's Tuesday November

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21st three hundred and twenty five days

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the United

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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I'm your host Jimmy Church what is car

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racket everybody how you doing

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all right Happy Thanksgiving now what a

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great week last night we had a David

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Wilcock on the show nice Thanksgiving

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end-of-the-year wrap-up special with him

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amazing and tonight we're gonna follow

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with the one and only Richard Dolan he

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is here now we're gonna go old-school

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tonight we are going to discuss UFOs and

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disclosure 2018 what we can expect next

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also we're gonna throw in some false

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a new series on Gaia called false flags

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it's absolutely amazing it's his passion

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way if you you know you start connecting

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the dots and false flags and UFOs

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actually go together don't they and

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there has been a conspiracy theory

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part of 10 years which is using UFOs as

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a false flag for everything you know and

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and so forth about you know would it

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take an alien you know attack from outer

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space to finally unite the world think

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about that the new world order it and

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would that be the case right so that's

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how you tie those together and there's

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nobody better than Richard bleep in

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Doland so he is here with us tonight now

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tomorrow night is another Fator night

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open lines all night long and Jon

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Thanksgiving so tomorrow will be open

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night because Thursday we are

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celebrating Thanksgiving with our family

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enjoy your weekend and Happy

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Thanksgiving from all of us here at fade

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to black because we have so much to be

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thankful for and I said this last night

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I just want to drive this home if you

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have the ability to listen to this show

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you know to be watching this show which

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is something rare but if you have that

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ability you have a lot to be thankful

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for there are so many people in this

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were billions in this world that don't

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that no matter how rough life is rough

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for everybody it's rough for me

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that other people wish they had because

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they don't have anything so think about

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that you know late on your car payment

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table you've got a boss that's stressing

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speeding ticket whatever hits these

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these day-to-day things right at least

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you have those problems okay so think

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about that we all have a lot to be

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you got that speeding ticket because you

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have a fast car that all right all right

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all right Happy Thanksgiving everybody

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in and tomorrow night we'll be talking

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about everybody's turkeys and food and

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what you guys do for Thanksgiving and

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and and what your families are like

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we'll do that tomorrow night we'll have

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a lot of fun with it and that's it so

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tonight it's Richard Dolan you can

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follow us on Twitter at Jay Church radio

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follow us on Twitter at jth radio you

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can follow Richard Dolan his is at rich

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Dolan I've talked to him about this

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before he set up his Twitter account 'ln

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called rich in a past life you know so

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that's why it's rich Dolan and I find

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that to be absolutely hysterical

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you can subscribe to our YouTube channel

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or like us on Facebook everything is

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right there on our website Jimmy Church

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radio.com all right now any questions or

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comments during the show tonight we use

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C TweetDeck for those we're broadcasting

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special live event on on YouTube for

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Thanksgiving and because we're giving

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we're thankful right and so for those of

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you out there that aren't familiar with

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the show that are new we use TweetDeck

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now it is a Twitter product but we use

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tweet that can tweet tech runs

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automatically it's not like Twitter

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I've got all these Twitter accounts open

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in just click click click click click

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there is 20 clicks in a row 20 tweets

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just like that it's amazing get yourself

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misspoke it was Lana Clarkson okay so I

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misspoke I don't know how Lana Turner

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came out but it just did that I got so

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Turner Lana Turner died of she had

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throat cancer what what you know okay I

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apologize when we think of Lana's we

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think of Lana Turner okay and it just it

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this going here we have just nine days

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have to do now the grand prize from

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tascam you're gonna get the winner is

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enter contest closes November 30th okay

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dot-org in contact John at modern

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which is coming up February 9th through

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the 12th 2018 is the conscious life Expo

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will be hosting the ancient aliens panel

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Linda Moulton Howe William Henry and Jay

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Widener all of them are stars on ancient

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conscious life Expo so you know you want

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to come and hang out with Juanita and

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conscious life Expo so visit all of our

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emergencies gonna kick down or that

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this show crackin today happy birthday

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to be short bays York like New York

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she used to really really freak me out

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because York today is 52 what was the

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name of her band before she was bezerk

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oh man I want to say it was the

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cranberries was the cranberries can't

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remember somebody popped that up in

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Twitter really quick also today Jena

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Malone is 33 and great young actress 33

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years old but she was the girlfriend in

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Donnie Darko and she was also the star

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in sucker punch and that was a great

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movie by the way today Tina Malone is 33

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our dead guys birthday today is a nice

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Harold Ramos Harold bleep and Ramos 1944

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to 2014 died very young at the age of 69

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screenwriter director and actor known

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for some of the greatest films of our

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it's Bjork

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no not here in the United States its

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majority Bjork be sugar cubes

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that's it sugar cubes that was sugar

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cubes was a great bad what did I say the

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Harold Ramos 1944 2014 and seriously

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responsible for some of the greatest

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films of our generation how about

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Caddyshack meatballs back to school club

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paradise one of my favorite films of all

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time Groundhog Day stripes Ghostbusters

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and national lampoon's vacation man also

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sctv he was really good in that too as

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well a lot of people don't remember him

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from SCTV happy birthday I know he's

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listening Harold Ramis on this day in

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history in 1877 it was one of the

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biggest days in the world in in world

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history in 1877 on this day Edison

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announces his first great invention the

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phonograph that's right a way to record

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and playback sound got that done in 1877

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absolutely incredible here's a fader

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fact for you

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a really interesting one too as well

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Elon Musk proposed to his second wife

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after they were together for just ten

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days but that's not what's interesting

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what is interesting is that they

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divorced two years later and then

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remarried the year after that and then

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filed for divorce again and then

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withdrew that filing refiled and then

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finally divorced and went through with

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it and that is a fader bag all right

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tonight Richard Dolan is back we're

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gonna we're gonna we're gonna do a

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throwback kind of show tonight we're

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gonna discuss UFOs in disclosure what we

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can expect in the coming year of 2018

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he's also got a new show out on Gaia it

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is called false flags the show is

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absolutely amazing and it starts off

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we're gonna talk a little bit about this

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tonight with Richard but starts off with

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like a false Flags 101 now the first

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episode takes you through what false

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flags are and and why they're called

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false flags and and so forth and then

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really goes deep the show is a maze

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so we'll discuss a little bit of false

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flags and UFOs combined with disclosure

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all night tonight Happy Thanksgiving

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because this is a really special

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Thanksgiving kind of show tomorrow night

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is another Fator night open lines Jon

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Rappoport will be taking the week off

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and we'll see him again next Thursday

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now hackers have accessed again millions

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of uber users personal information now

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this is what is amazing here uber

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decided not to report it to hackers got

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into the system and this is last year in

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2016 and officially outside of the

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company access personal information of

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57 million uber users including names

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email addresses phone numbers and the

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company hasn't really disclosed much

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more than that but they also accessed

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driver's license numbers yeah

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officially 600,000 driver's license

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numbers now that's obviously uber

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drivers if you think about that okay the

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600,000 was included in the total number

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of affected users the 57 million company

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did not say anything they didn't alert

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victims they didn't alert regulators

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they didn't invoke alert law enforcement

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nobody

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okay now they discovered it last year

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they knew that had happened going

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through uh you know the the the charges

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and some of the allegations that were

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going on with personnel and and some

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other things all the way up to the CEO

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of the company last year the stock

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prices were going up and down you had

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different cities and countries around

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the world revolting against uber and

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they've got now a lot of competition

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where before they were the only ride in

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town but now there's lyft and others

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right so uber had a lot of things on

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their plate and drivers complaining

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about not getting paid and then ubers

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raising prices but they were you know

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paying their drivers more and so forth

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now the company is really really really

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worth a lot of money okay but it's to do

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this worrying about dollars and to get

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hacked and have the personal information

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457 million people exposed and not let

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anybody know about it not directly to

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the customers you know like hey change

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your password you know they didn't do

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that it's it's an unbelievable

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unbelievable violation of the public

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trust and with the problems that uber

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has been going through why would you do

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it at this point who is who is advising

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you know giving that advice I don't

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understand it we have the problems with

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Equifax we have the problems repeated

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with Yahoo and and I can go I can go on

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and on and on I would think that if we

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did the math

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that pretty much everybody in the United

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States everybody now has their personal

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information for sale on the dark web

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somewhere somewhere

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I don't know how to to say it more

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clearly than that there was a point I

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remember I remember my first driver's

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license in Indiana and my mom said to me

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there in Indiana she goes you know

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what's really great it's easy if

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somebody had asked me for my driver's

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license number come on which was in my

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wallet or something and my mom goes no

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no no everybody knows the driver's

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license number here in Indiana I said oh

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yeah really because yeah it's your

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social security number with an S in

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front of it oh no really

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and and I thought to myself that feels

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weird

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that feels strange now we know that your

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social security number and and your your

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private information it net it's never

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needed to be more private than it is

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today we do everything we can not to let

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anybody know anything a pin number this

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you don't want to see people to you

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don't want you know your mail and and

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you're at a checkout line and scanners

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and chips and cards and card readers and

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all of this is out there and so we need

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to know now today when something like

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this happens it is your responsibility

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that within seconds to alert your 57

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million customers in your customer base

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they are the reason why your company

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exists that that's the respect that you

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need to give back to your customers and

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by not doing it your showing zero

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respect you're not respecting the money

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you're not respecting what is propped

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you up you're not respecting what is put

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you there which is your customers

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we need to protect that I am so blown

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away by this news today I was really

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upset when when and when it came down

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with Equifax when it happened once or

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twice three times with Yahoo you know

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what we're talking about 150 million 200

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million people population in the United

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States and 350 million so when you're

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talking about numbers of 200 million

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people right you know fifty seven

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million people fifty-seven minutes one

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in seven people were exposed one in

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seven

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I'm just totally disappointed I really

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we have here I mean there's nothing you

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can really do of course we have a credit

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card a credit lock or life lock and we

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might even have two different companies

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that that were signed up with and I I'm

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waiting for life lock to get hacked you

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know I don't know how to keep stuff

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private anymore I I just don't and and

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what we really need is to make sure that

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those large companies that have that

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kind of information if there is a breach

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to immediately to the second to alert

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the customer base that's it all right

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I'm gonna get out of here tonight

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Richard Dolan and we had an absolutely

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fantastic show last night with David

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Wilcock and it was we've done a lot of

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shows with David this year every year

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you know we probably do three four or

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five shows with David all year long last

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year last night was the first time for

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me that I think he was really

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comfortable and the reason why he's

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comfortable is he's seeing things play

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out and last night it was that kind of

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show and I expect the same thing tonight

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from Richard it's a very special week

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for us here and for you this is

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Thanksgiving for you to spend three

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hours of your evening every night here

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with us we want to give back to you so

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last night David Wilcock tonight Richard

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Dolan

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this is fade to black I am your host

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Jimmy Church and I'll be right back

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after this short break with our guest

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richard bleepin Dolan on the GameChanger

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network in kg ra the planet you can

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follow me on twitter at j radio email is

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jimmy at jimmy church radio calm we've

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got all the chat rooms open

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it's going to be a very dynamic evening

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I'll be right back stay with us

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[Music]

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you're listening to Jimmy Church fade to

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[Music]

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hi this is Rob Reiner from Apple and

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you're listening to Jimmy Church radio

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calm combats and we're listening the

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black

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happy Thanksgiving everybody great week

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here on fade to black and makes me feel

602
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great to know that you're here with us

603
00:31:06,190 --> 00:31:03,730
spending your time here on fader block

604
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:06,200
you can follow me on twitter IG a church

605
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radio you can follow richard at rich

606
00:31:14,919 --> 00:31:12,470
dolan if you do that it pops up richard

607
00:31:19,450 --> 00:31:14,929
bleep in dolan but we're at rich dolan

608
00:31:21,549 --> 00:31:19,460
on twitter richard is one of the world's

609
00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:21,559
leading UFO historians he has written

610
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:23,929
many classics for the field including

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00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:26,720
UFOs in the national security state ad

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00:31:32,110 --> 00:31:29,570
after disclosure and ufos for the 21st

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00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:32,120
century mine as well as ongoing booklets

614
00:31:38,770 --> 00:31:36,049
and one that he wrote on the trump

615
00:31:40,390 --> 00:31:38,780
administration and disclosure you need

616
00:31:43,930 --> 00:31:40,400
to really go check that out at richard

617
00:31:46,510 --> 00:31:43,940
ol impress it's a really really amazing

618
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:46,520
a piece of work it's a it's only seventy

619
00:31:51,490 --> 00:31:48,530
pages i think so it's a quick read

620
00:31:55,419 --> 00:31:51,500
but his lectures and everything have

621
00:31:57,010 --> 00:31:55,429
always just captured audiences all

622
00:31:58,899 --> 00:31:57,020
around the world and of course he has

623
00:32:01,270 --> 00:31:58,909
appeared on television and ancient

624
00:32:03,370 --> 00:32:01,280
aliens and along with myself on hanger

625
00:32:04,770 --> 00:32:03,380
one which that series would come back

626
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:04,780
and it just might under another name

627
00:32:10,060 --> 00:32:07,250
currently he is the writer and host of

628
00:32:11,890 --> 00:32:10,070
the series false flags on gaia i was

629
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:11,900
speaking about this to the fader knots

630
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:13,610
before the show tonight it's an

631
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:15,710
outstanding series and you should go

632
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:17,450
check that out right now a guy it's

633
00:32:22,419 --> 00:32:19,760
really well done and he has of course

634
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the Richard Dolan show right here on kgr

635
00:32:27,940 --> 00:32:24,620
a he's got another radio show that he

636
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:27,950
does call the EFT of files and you can

637
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:30,049
check out all of that over at Richard

638
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:32,450
Dolan press com tonight we're gonna

639
00:32:37,810 --> 00:32:35,809
discuss UFOs disclosure 2018 the best

640
00:32:39,549 --> 00:32:37,820
evidence in the history and what we can

641
00:32:41,370 --> 00:32:39,559
expect in the coming year and I would

642
00:32:44,529 --> 00:32:41,380
like to welcome back to fade to black

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Richard bleep and Dolan Richard good

644
00:32:48,850 --> 00:32:46,730
evening my man how'd you make hey it's

645
00:32:50,620 --> 00:32:48,860
nice to be here with you on KCRA thanks

646
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:50,630
for having me on tonight it's always

647
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:53,360
great to hear your voice now you know

648
00:32:57,010 --> 00:32:55,130
where I'm going you know where I'm going

649
00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:57,020
right now first off happy Thanksgiving

650
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and I hope

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that's you and to you Thanksgiving and I

652
00:33:04,130 --> 00:33:01,910
hope you're ready for this Thursday but

653
00:33:08,510 --> 00:33:04,140
what was the last song you listened to

654
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:08,520
today I forgot you're gonna ask me that

655
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:11,370
I honestly forgot you're going to ask me

656
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:13,650
that question how could I forget because

657
00:33:21,410 --> 00:33:17,370
you always do this let's see I was

658
00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:21,420
working up in my attic getting that

659
00:33:24,620 --> 00:33:22,620
whole thing I've been doing a major

660
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:24,630
renovation up there mmm I had disco

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00:33:32,420 --> 00:33:29,090
music on all evening I love my disco yes

662
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:32,430
I think I had done a summer singing Bad

663
00:33:42,290 --> 00:33:36,650
Girls I think that's my latest oh nice

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okay you know disco for me it takes me

665
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:45,180
right back we're the same age so it

666
00:33:51,620 --> 00:33:47,760
takes me right back to those very

667
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:51,630
special days of the 70s man and and it's

668
00:33:56,330 --> 00:33:54,510
it I don't care what anybody I'm a

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00:33:58,750 --> 00:33:56,340
heavy-metal guy you know that you know I

670
00:34:02,270 --> 00:33:58,760
like kind of like my my heavy metal but

671
00:34:04,220 --> 00:34:02,280
disco that will get your emotions going

672
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:04,230
doesn't it it just we say this about

673
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:07,650
disco I have really come to appreciate

674
00:34:13,370 --> 00:34:11,490
this go very very much and disco taught

675
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:13,380
me a lesson in the 70s I was a teenager

676
00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:17,610
and I remember being about 15 years old

677
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:20,550
and really digging the soundtrack to

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00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:21,690
Saturday Night Fever

679
00:34:28,070 --> 00:34:25,020
the beach is Travolta was a mega

680
00:34:31,340 --> 00:34:28,080
superstar dancer in that movie and then

681
00:34:32,660 --> 00:34:31,350
came the whole backlash against disco at

682
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:32,670
least among a lot of kids in my high

683
00:34:39,020 --> 00:34:36,450
school actually disco sucks t-shirts and

684
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:39,030
everything bad disco sucked and it was

685
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:44,690
the I was 1516 and I to my shame really

686
00:34:50,750 --> 00:34:47,820
allowed myself to succumb to that and I

687
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:50,760
got myself into this disco sucks mode as

688
00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:52,800
well and I remembered I traded in my

689
00:35:01,670 --> 00:34:57,300
Saturday Night Fever album for Frampton

690
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:01,680
Comes Alive yeah I just want to say this

691
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:05,370
into anyone I want this to be a lesson

692
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:07,770
because I look back on that period of my

693
00:35:11,660 --> 00:35:10,650
life and I I think I can honestly say it

694
00:35:16,030 --> 00:35:11,670
was the last time in

695
00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:16,040
life when I allowed stupid peer pressure

696
00:35:21,049 --> 00:35:19,020
censorship to help me write like what I

697
00:35:24,349 --> 00:35:21,059
what I should like and how I should

698
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:24,359
express myself I don't think that I've

699
00:35:30,339 --> 00:35:26,160
had any of their like major instances

700
00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:30,349
like that but I think why is it that we

701
00:35:36,410 --> 00:35:33,900
are so influenced you know by the

702
00:35:37,930 --> 00:35:36,420
attitudes of those around us and I look

703
00:35:40,579 --> 00:35:37,940
back I think of dis Coates happy music

704
00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:40,589
it's it's not what I would call deep but

705
00:35:44,510 --> 00:35:42,750
how much of heavy metal is really deep

706
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:44,520
when you get right down to it disco is

707
00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:46,380
happy it's great for me to work to and I

708
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:48,000
find myself really enjoying it these

709
00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:51,930
days the country if you remember and I

710
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:53,910
know this may freak some some people out

711
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:56,160
they didn't go through it but there were

712
00:36:01,460 --> 00:35:58,290
you know the rock stations across the

713
00:36:04,789 --> 00:36:01,470
country we're like doing disco record

714
00:36:07,089 --> 00:36:04,799
destroying things right bring us your

715
00:36:10,220 --> 00:36:07,099
disco records we'll run over it with

716
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:10,230
steam rollers you know I know it

717
00:36:19,819 --> 00:36:15,930
actually really was was going on oh I

718
00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:19,829
know I the whole disco sucks thing and

719
00:36:24,020 --> 00:36:22,260
and I got sucked into it like you know

720
00:36:27,250 --> 00:36:24,030
so many people did and it was just

721
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:27,260
promotions and I get that you know

722
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:30,960
marketing but there was this revolution

723
00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:34,290
this whole rock versus disco music thing

724
00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:37,380
that was that was fake it was brought on

725
00:36:45,950 --> 00:36:39,780
to us by the man well the reality is

726
00:36:51,650 --> 00:36:45,960
that disco rocks enjoy people it was the

727
00:36:54,319 --> 00:36:51,660
disco sucks false-flag right yeah yeah I

728
00:36:56,809 --> 00:36:54,329
wanted to ask you this were actually

729
00:36:59,690 --> 00:36:56,819
where I'm going to start off and and

730
00:37:04,280 --> 00:36:59,700
it's and it's this I really really

731
00:37:08,569 --> 00:37:04,290
thoroughly enjoyed your gaya false-flag

732
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:08,579
series but but before before you say

733
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:11,010
thank you let me let me say this I

734
00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:13,650
didn't know what to expect with it okay

735
00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:16,470
now this was for me and I could be wrong

736
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:18,420
here but this was your first time where

737
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:20,609
you haven't been the guest star you know

738
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:22,079
you haven't you're not the talking yet

739
00:37:27,790 --> 00:37:24,410
now this is your thing this is

740
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:27,800
this is all you and I have to say

741
00:37:36,250 --> 00:37:31,330
Richard that you have really evolved

742
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:36,260
into a communicator where before I think

743
00:37:41,470 --> 00:37:38,450
people expected you to be the black and

744
00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:41,480
white pragmatic historian and you spoke

745
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:45,800
that way now you have come into your own

746
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:48,710
and I think Richard Dolan the guy that I

747
00:37:53,050 --> 00:37:51,530
know is who is on this show and you've

748
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:53,060
really evolved

749
00:37:58,210 --> 00:37:54,770
can you tell do you know what I'm

750
00:38:00,700 --> 00:37:58,220
talking about I don't know maybe I mean

751
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:00,710
all of our life all of our intellectual

752
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:02,930
development is evolution it really

753
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:05,510
honestly is I'm in my 50s now I'm not

754
00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:08,480
where I was in my 30s or my 40s when I

755
00:38:16,180 --> 00:38:12,470
broke into the UFO arena almost 20 years

756
00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:16,190
ago I was very explicitly going in with

757
00:38:20,770 --> 00:38:18,740
a certain kind of armor and that armor

758
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:20,780
was as a historian who had a factual

759
00:38:26,590 --> 00:38:23,570
foundation that he wanted to present to

760
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:26,600
the world a matter of UFOs and I felt

761
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:27,890
that that was the best way to go forward

762
00:38:33,070 --> 00:38:31,010
with discussing the subject in a very

763
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:33,080
serious way that would get people's

764
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:35,440
attention I think that that worked

765
00:38:40,510 --> 00:38:38,090
overall I think that those first two

766
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:40,520
histories that I wrote UFOs in the

767
00:38:47,230 --> 00:38:44,710
national security state were noteworthy

768
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:47,240
at least to readers the impression I get

769
00:38:53,890 --> 00:38:51,200
is because it did appear to be a fairly

770
00:38:56,860 --> 00:38:53,900
objective study that didn't insert a lot

771
00:38:59,470 --> 00:38:56,870
of emotion a lot of invective and so on

772
00:39:00,940 --> 00:38:59,480
and that I you know it's funny I look

773
00:39:03,250 --> 00:39:00,950
back that's the kind of reputation that

774
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:03,260
I people seem to give me

775
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:06,320
Dolan's just the facts and so on but the

776
00:39:12,250 --> 00:39:10,490
reality is as well as studying history

777
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:12,260
my entire life I've studied philosophy

778
00:39:15,250 --> 00:39:14,000
my entire life I've studied literature

779
00:39:19,540 --> 00:39:15,260
my entire life

780
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:19,550
there's a lot of different aspects to

781
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:22,310
what my my brain is about what my mind

782
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:24,640
is I've studied

783
00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:27,440
esoteric things for almost my entire

784
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:29,420
life as well and people are sometimes

785
00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:33,110
shocked to hear that but I'm very

786
00:39:36,580 --> 00:39:34,940
scientific in my orientation about

787
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:36,590
things but that doesn't mean that I

788
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:37,970
don't study some really cry

789
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:40,640
things relating to the false-flag series

790
00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:41,810
I'm very glad that you like it I

791
00:39:49,570 --> 00:39:46,520
appreciate that it's a yeah I think I'm

792
00:39:50,770 --> 00:39:49,580
speaking with a true voice I think

793
00:39:53,290 --> 00:39:50,780
that's right

794
00:39:57,089 --> 00:39:53,300
but I would point out that that show is

795
00:40:00,820 --> 00:39:57,099
filled with research that I conducted

796
00:40:04,170 --> 00:40:00,830
that is every bit as factually grounded

797
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:04,180
as any UFO research that I've ever done

798
00:40:10,810 --> 00:40:09,290
but so I I don't I don't not sure how to

799
00:40:12,609 --> 00:40:10,820
answer that maybe you and other

800
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:12,619
listeners and readers can answer that

801
00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:14,210
question better than I can to be honest

802
00:40:19,630 --> 00:40:16,430
I think it's hard sometimes for a writer

803
00:40:21,820 --> 00:40:19,640
or a public person to get a objective

804
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:21,830
view of where they're at what I can tell

805
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:27,890
you is that every year every January

806
00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:29,810
actually of every year I always assess

807
00:40:34,750 --> 00:40:31,940
where I'm at intellectually in my

808
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:34,760
research and where I want to go so I'm

809
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:36,730
constantly trying to read assess

810
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:39,890
reevaluate and go deeper ever deeper

811
00:40:45,970 --> 00:40:41,690
with where I where I'm at I can't ever

812
00:40:48,460 --> 00:40:45,980
be satisfied ever with the research that

813
00:40:51,970 --> 00:40:48,470
I've done in prior years I'm constantly

814
00:40:54,339 --> 00:40:51,980
trying to move forward and the false

815
00:40:57,849 --> 00:40:54,349
flag study which by the way everything

816
00:40:59,440 --> 00:40:57,859
that's in that series on Gaia's material

817
00:41:04,120 --> 00:40:59,450
that I've been writing for the book that

818
00:41:05,620 --> 00:41:04,130
I am working on like a series I I like

819
00:41:05,980 --> 00:41:05,630
to say that you'll you'll love the book

820
00:41:08,829 --> 00:41:05,990
as well

821
00:41:12,370 --> 00:41:08,839
the alleged book the alleged yeah he

822
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:12,380
write according to a Dolan claims this

823
00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:14,810
this book of which he speaks this

824
00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:16,520
alleged book which may or may not occur

825
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:19,670
yes it'll be out in the first half of

826
00:41:24,250 --> 00:41:21,920
2018 really looking for dedicated

827
00:41:26,430 --> 00:41:24,260
dedicated getting it done and the thing

828
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:26,440
is look I want it off my plate

829
00:41:30,940 --> 00:41:28,730
so I can move on to other things I've

830
00:41:34,030 --> 00:41:30,950
got other projects that I absolutely

831
00:41:36,820 --> 00:41:34,040
have piled up and the false flag book

832
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:36,830
nothing happens until the false flag

833
00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:42,800
book is done the rumor the conspiracy

834
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:45,140
theory that has been floated around

835
00:41:51,630 --> 00:41:47,810
probably going back since Reagan did his

836
00:41:55,740 --> 00:41:51,640
famous UN speeches about

837
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:55,750
you know an alien situation here to

838
00:42:03,210 --> 00:41:59,440
unite earth there's been this theory

839
00:42:05,490 --> 00:42:03,220
floated around in our circles about an

840
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:05,500
alien invasion being used as a false

841
00:42:13,850 --> 00:42:09,250
flag now and I know this is a strange

842
00:42:17,340 --> 00:42:13,860
segue but it is a real one and this is a

843
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:17,350
theory that is has got a lot of teeth to

844
00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:21,010
it what do you think about that actually

845
00:42:25,980 --> 00:42:23,470
I don't agree with that and I've been

846
00:42:28,890 --> 00:42:25,990
dealing with this rumor these claims for

847
00:42:30,930 --> 00:42:28,900
many years I think I'll be honest with

848
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:30,940
you and I'm not including you in this

849
00:42:34,050 --> 00:42:33,190
when I'm so please don't take it the

850
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:34,060
wrong way but I think a lot of

851
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:36,880
irresponsible people have been spreading

852
00:42:41,810 --> 00:42:38,530
rumors like this for a long time

853
00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:41,820
mmm-hmm without evidence I mean zero

854
00:42:46,980 --> 00:42:45,400
evidence every time I hear any kind of

855
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:46,990
claim it's based on some kind of

856
00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:48,730
anonymous inside source and no one ever

857
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:50,590
knows who these people are right now I

858
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:52,720
can tell you the original version of

859
00:42:55,590 --> 00:42:55,030
this theory this false flag Elian

860
00:42:59,250 --> 00:42:55,600
invasion

861
00:43:02,850 --> 00:42:59,260
derived ultimately from a deceased man

862
00:43:04,590 --> 00:43:02,860
from Quebec named Serge Moe Nast I did a

863
00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:04,600
lot of study of this guy and in fact I

864
00:43:08,730 --> 00:43:05,800
wrote an article about him a few years

865
00:43:12,060 --> 00:43:08,740
ago it's it's um Kevin on my side it's

866
00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:12,070
you could google it and it's on Project

867
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:14,590
Blue Beam that's the original iteration

868
00:43:21,150 --> 00:43:19,390
of this theory Moe Nast was um didn't

869
00:43:22,770 --> 00:43:21,160
really seem to get out of his house very

870
00:43:24,810 --> 00:43:22,780
much to be honest with you it's writing

871
00:43:26,730 --> 00:43:24,820
in the early nineties claimed I've had a

872
00:43:28,170 --> 00:43:26,740
connection at NASA of all places this

873
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:28,180
guy lived in Quebec I don't even think

874
00:43:32,490 --> 00:43:30,910
he spoke English at all but he claimed

875
00:43:35,820 --> 00:43:32,500
to have a connection at NASA who told

876
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:35,830
him that the new world order was going

877
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:39,370
to create a false flag Mewsette phrase

878
00:43:43,770 --> 00:43:41,680
but like holographic displays in the sky

879
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:43,780
to convince people of the second coming

880
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:46,210
of Christ Moniz was a very devout

881
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:48,610
Christian and this is the first version

882
00:43:58,110 --> 00:43:52,930
of this idea so through the 90s he

883
00:43:59,460 --> 00:43:58,120
promoted this idea that near 2000 y2k

884
00:44:02,220 --> 00:43:59,470
which a lot of people were worked up

885
00:44:05,550 --> 00:44:02,230
over was going to be an alien invasion

886
00:44:07,020 --> 00:44:05,560
but a second coming of Jesus false flag

887
00:44:08,990 --> 00:44:07,030
and when you really think about the

888
00:44:11,630 --> 00:44:09,000
logic of this it's utterly ludicrous

889
00:44:15,930 --> 00:44:11,640
it's it's been should be beneath

890
00:44:17,490 --> 00:44:15,940
contempt but yet people buy into it the

891
00:44:20,130 --> 00:44:17,500
technology how would this happen how do

892
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:20,140
you convince a world of people who are

893
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:20,890
not Christians

894
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:22,450
that this is a big thing how do you

895
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,010
convince scientists and millions of

896
00:44:33,870 --> 00:44:28,240
skeptical and hostile scientists as well

897
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:33,880
and anyway it was nonsense and Montez

898
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:36,010
died and then the whole idea morphed

899
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:39,810
into UFO thing by the early 2000s and

900
00:44:44,670 --> 00:44:42,130
then instead of the second coming of

901
00:44:47,370 --> 00:44:44,680
Jesus it was a fake alien invasion

902
00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:47,380
displays in the sky and again I would

903
00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:49,780
ask you or any listener to just ask

904
00:44:55,890 --> 00:44:53,710
yourself how how stupid are people

905
00:44:59,700 --> 00:44:55,900
really supposed to be like so you

906
00:45:03,720 --> 00:44:59,710
pretend to have an alien invasion are

907
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:03,730
you gonna get away with it simply by by

908
00:45:08,730 --> 00:45:06,250
telling people without showing them

909
00:45:13,170 --> 00:45:08,740
aliens in the sky now here's another

910
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:13,180
thing you create a fake one of your you

911
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:14,800
know breakaway civilization ships and

912
00:45:21,870 --> 00:45:16,720
blow up the Empire State Building or

913
00:45:24,270 --> 00:45:21,880
blow up the Kremlin I mean that's a hell

914
00:45:27,810 --> 00:45:24,280
of a logistical nightmare for anyone to

915
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:27,820
pull off and I'm extremely skeptical and

916
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:29,470
for what purpose

917
00:45:32,940 --> 00:45:31,450
to implement the global fascist New

918
00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:32,950
World Order which is already happening

919
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:36,670
all around us every single day I can

920
00:45:41,610 --> 00:45:39,370
tell you right now this is there way too

921
00:45:43,350 --> 00:45:41,620
many loose ends 9/11 was hard enough for

922
00:45:46,380 --> 00:45:43,360
those people what we're talking about a

923
00:45:49,350 --> 00:45:46,390
fake alien invasion there's no logic in

924
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:49,360
my mind and but most importantly I've

925
00:45:56,730 --> 00:45:53,260
never seen a single shred of evidence or

926
00:45:58,170 --> 00:45:56,740
even even quasi evidence that people can

927
00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:58,180
point to they just go in there hunch at

928
00:46:01,980 --> 00:45:59,410
what they believe is going to happen

929
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:01,990
without providing any reason and I think

930
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:02,890
we deserve better than that

931
00:46:07,950 --> 00:46:05,710
so I don't support the idea of a false

932
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:07,960
flag alien invasion now I do think that

933
00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:12,370
the UFO subject has been filled with

934
00:46:19,550 --> 00:46:16,950
false flag II kinds of

935
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:19,560
of things like there's been lies about

936
00:46:23,930 --> 00:46:21,330
UFOs since the beginning of course has

937
00:46:25,610 --> 00:46:23,940
been disinformation in the UFO field

938
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:25,620
from the beginning there have been and

939
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:27,920
I'm convinced to this day individuals

940
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:32,490
that are either on some payroll whose

941
00:46:38,570 --> 00:46:36,570
purpose is to dis inform or unknowingly

942
00:46:40,580 --> 00:46:38,580
being promoted by those very interests

943
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:40,590
because they're off the deep end or they

944
00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:42,690
have an ego trip or whatever it is and

945
00:46:48,530 --> 00:46:45,270
they're being used for those purposes

946
00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:48,540
anyway so there's always been disinfo

947
00:46:53,180 --> 00:46:51,360
spewing into the UFO field and for a

948
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:53,190
good reason because the UFO subject is

949
00:47:00,170 --> 00:46:56,400
important and it's important for those

950
00:47:03,110 --> 00:47:00,180
people who are managing that secret to

951
00:47:07,010 --> 00:47:03,120
keep all of us off-balance and they're

952
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:07,020
really good at that you know it's really

953
00:47:10,450 --> 00:47:08,730
not that difficult you've got a field

954
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:10,460
that's as wide open as our own

955
00:47:14,330 --> 00:47:12,690
everyone's got access to a microphone

956
00:47:17,810 --> 00:47:14,340
everyone's got access to YouTube

957
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:17,820
everyone's doing interviews and if you

958
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:19,410
know you wanted to bring a crazy person

959
00:47:23,390 --> 00:47:21,810
in or an irresponsible liar into the

960
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,400
field just put them in front of a

961
00:47:27,050 --> 00:47:24,960
microphone and there'll be people always

962
00:47:31,820 --> 00:47:27,060
people to listen to them so

963
00:47:33,050 --> 00:47:31,830
disinformation is almost the norm in our

964
00:47:36,620 --> 00:47:33,060
field and it's really making it

965
00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:36,630
difficult for those of us to to continue

966
00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:38,460
doing responsible research and to move

967
00:47:43,220 --> 00:47:41,160
ahead I try and there's a lot of other

968
00:47:45,860 --> 00:47:43,230
good people out there doing good UFO

969
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:45,870
research so um we'll keep doing what we

970
00:47:51,290 --> 00:47:49,110
do but false flag alien invasion no I

971
00:47:57,310 --> 00:47:51,300
not buying it now I'll say this last

972
00:47:59,330 --> 00:47:57,320
thing I'll say on this is if tomorrow

973
00:48:02,600 --> 00:47:59,340
President Trump were to say there's an

974
00:48:06,740 --> 00:48:02,610
alien invasion I would say that's a

975
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:06,750
false flag if a president or any any

976
00:48:10,220 --> 00:48:08,370
president could have been Obama if any

977
00:48:12,020 --> 00:48:10,230
president we're to say that there's an

978
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:12,030
alien invasion I'd be like okay that's a

979
00:48:14,660 --> 00:48:12,480
lie

980
00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:14,670
that's a false flag but it's not going

981
00:48:19,070 --> 00:48:16,380
to happen they're not going to go down

982
00:48:22,970 --> 00:48:19,080
that road because again it's it's a

983
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:22,980
matter of you can convince they can

984
00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:24,720
convince your neighbors and my neighbors

985
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:26,670
they can convince people who have no

986
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:29,490
education they can convince people who

987
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,450
are prone

988
00:48:34,010 --> 00:48:32,640
to believing anything that the

989
00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:34,020
mainstream media tells them but there's

990
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:37,520
a lot of people in this world who have

991
00:48:42,829 --> 00:48:40,710
or in positions of power who strongly

992
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:42,839
disbelieve in this and they're gonna

993
00:48:46,940 --> 00:48:44,250
need something a little bit more than a

994
00:48:49,550 --> 00:48:46,950
light show to convince them that there's

995
00:48:50,750 --> 00:48:49,560
actually something going on so no I I

996
00:48:54,589 --> 00:48:50,760
just don't buy it unless you want to

997
00:48:57,770 --> 00:48:54,599
kill all the scientists or bribe them

998
00:48:59,450 --> 00:48:57,780
off millions of them and it's just it's

999
00:49:02,599 --> 00:48:59,460
just too much to ask my opinion

1000
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:02,609
well okay then what about Project Blue

1001
00:49:10,609 --> 00:49:07,170
Beam well I talked about it I think Blue

1002
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:10,619
Beam you know came out of the mind of

1003
00:49:16,450 --> 00:49:12,450
ceremony asked who I think personally

1004
00:49:19,220 --> 00:49:16,460
was a bit deranged he was a fanatical

1005
00:49:21,290 --> 00:49:19,230
evangelical Christian and I'm not trying

1006
00:49:24,050 --> 00:49:21,300
to insult people or devout Christians

1007
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:24,060
but there are fanatical evangelical

1008
00:49:27,890 --> 00:49:25,380
Christians in this world he was one of

1009
00:49:31,220 --> 00:49:27,900
them he had a very strong belief system

1010
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:31,230
and wrapped his entire blue beam

1011
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:34,140
scenario around that belief system again

1012
00:49:39,140 --> 00:49:36,690
providing no evidence for it his idea

1013
00:49:41,809 --> 00:49:39,150
morphed as I said into this idea of an

1014
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:41,819
alien invasion which again similarly has

1015
00:49:48,050 --> 00:49:46,530
had no evidence to support it so I mean

1016
00:49:50,089 --> 00:49:48,060
you know there's people like dr. Carol

1017
00:49:52,430 --> 00:49:50,099
rosin who's a friend of mine I like

1018
00:49:54,770 --> 00:49:52,440
Carol and she's talked often about her

1019
00:49:57,530 --> 00:49:54,780
encounter with dr. Verner von Braun the

1020
00:49:59,480 --> 00:49:57,540
end of his life in the 1970s I have

1021
00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:59,490
every reason to believe Carol 100% on

1022
00:50:03,380 --> 00:50:01,200
this and she said when when Braun was

1023
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:03,390
nearing me and he was dying of cancer he

1024
00:50:10,220 --> 00:50:06,329
said Herr Carol they're gonna do first

1025
00:50:10,849 --> 00:50:10,230
they're gonna lie and tell you that was

1026
00:50:13,550 --> 00:50:10,859
it

1027
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:13,560
the Communists are the threat then

1028
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:15,210
they're gonna blame to terrorists and

1029
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,849
they're gonna blame an asteroid and then

1030
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:19,680
they're gonna talk about aliens as a way

1031
00:50:27,020 --> 00:50:23,599
to work people up to get them to obey

1032
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:27,030
now I'm not saying von Braun didn't say

1033
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:30,210
it but the fact that Verner von Braun

1034
00:50:37,460 --> 00:50:34,970
said this to Carol rosin 40 years ago

1035
00:50:39,770 --> 00:50:37,470
doesn't really mean that von Braun had

1036
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:39,780
the keys to the kingdom even even then

1037
00:50:43,490 --> 00:50:42,089
he was an important scientist but you

1038
00:50:44,090 --> 00:50:43,500
don't know and I don't know what von

1039
00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:44,100
Braun

1040
00:50:49,220 --> 00:50:46,260
new was he just spouting off his opinion

1041
00:50:51,110 --> 00:50:49,230
was he angry was he what was it I don't

1042
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:51,120
know I don't know what the situation was

1043
00:50:56,270 --> 00:50:52,650
I mean we've turned this into some like

1044
00:50:57,650 --> 00:50:56,280
holy dogma that oh my god von Braun said

1045
00:50:58,190 --> 00:50:57,660
that so therefore it has to be exactly

1046
00:51:02,660 --> 00:50:58,200
true

1047
00:51:06,580 --> 00:51:02,670
right and you know it's a like that with

1048
00:51:11,660 --> 00:51:06,590
a lot of things in this field but so

1049
00:51:13,370 --> 00:51:11,670
lies abound in our world lies abound

1050
00:51:16,340 --> 00:51:13,380
from our government no matter who is in

1051
00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:16,350
power it's just the way it is so we

1052
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:21,000
can't trust the United States national

1053
00:51:26,810 --> 00:51:24,410
security structure for anything anything

1054
00:51:29,570 --> 00:51:26,820
they have an agenda that's really

1055
00:51:33,980 --> 00:51:29,580
dangerous for the world and for ordinary

1056
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:33,990
people but you know so expect them to

1057
00:51:37,310 --> 00:51:35,610
view false flags and expect them to lie

1058
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:37,320
about UFOs but to do a false flag

1059
00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:39,450
galleon invasion I don't think we're

1060
00:51:47,630 --> 00:51:43,980
there it is so easy to start a rumor a

1061
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:47,640
theory or an agenda today right it's

1062
00:51:51,710 --> 00:51:50,160
just it's way too easy for anybody to do

1063
00:51:54,980 --> 00:51:51,720
like you said anybody with a microphone

1064
00:51:57,140 --> 00:51:54,990
computer chat room form your office

1065
00:52:01,340 --> 00:51:57,150
pretty much anybody anybody can do it

1066
00:52:03,830 --> 00:52:01,350
and we've got a slew of things that have

1067
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:03,840
been floating around for a long time and

1068
00:52:10,190 --> 00:52:07,530
one of those is that we got the Iraqi

1069
00:52:12,740 --> 00:52:10,200
army to surrender as quickly as we did

1070
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:12,750
because we were you know showing images

1071
00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:17,910
up in the sky of Muhammad or Allah and

1072
00:52:23,180 --> 00:52:20,400
and they just freaked out and and and

1073
00:52:26,830 --> 00:52:23,190
turn into and now that that actually

1074
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:26,840
could be true what is definitely true

1075
00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:29,370
relating to the persian gulf war going

1076
00:52:35,210 --> 00:52:32,700
back to the early 90s 25 plus years ago

1077
00:52:37,610 --> 00:52:35,220
that's right yes even back then was was

1078
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:37,620
expert users of what you might call

1079
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:40,800
acoustic weapon ring so these would be

1080
00:52:46,910 --> 00:52:43,650
things that would you know an

1081
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:46,920
electromagnetic types of weapons and and

1082
00:52:51,290 --> 00:52:48,510
then of course I think they were way

1083
00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:51,300
more advanced in o3o for when they were

1084
00:53:00,740 --> 00:52:57,920
different technologies to disable you

1085
00:53:02,809 --> 00:53:00,750
or your target intellectually disabled

1086
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:02,819
them cognitively disabled them no that's

1087
00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:05,490
an that's a major thing that the US

1088
00:53:11,089 --> 00:53:08,609
military does now did they use images of

1089
00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:11,099
Muhammad I don't know if that would have

1090
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:12,329
been effective to be honest with you

1091
00:53:18,859 --> 00:53:15,359
because in Islam as anyone with the

1092
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:18,869
basic knowledge knows it is forbidden to

1093
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:20,490
have any depictions of the Prophet and

1094
00:53:24,799 --> 00:53:22,800
so why would they happen to know what he

1095
00:53:27,049 --> 00:53:24,809
looked like I mean they wouldn't there's

1096
00:53:30,799 --> 00:53:27,059
no there's no image of Muhammad like

1097
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:30,809
there are popular images of Jesus that a

1098
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:32,730
Muslim would say oh well yeah that's

1099
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:34,650
Muhammad so I don't see how that would

1100
00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:36,450
really work frankly and if and if the

1101
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:38,910
American military did that frankly that

1102
00:53:44,890 --> 00:53:41,010
seems kind of stupid but what they would

1103
00:53:51,140 --> 00:53:44,900
do are different types of electronic

1104
00:53:53,930 --> 00:53:51,150
measures that would be directed at like

1105
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:53,940
the enemy biological organisms like

1106
00:53:59,089 --> 00:53:55,970
against their their brains against their

1107
00:54:01,819 --> 00:53:59,099
to disrupt them so that that's a real

1108
00:54:03,890 --> 00:54:01,829
technology do you think that it was

1109
00:54:05,660 --> 00:54:03,900
actually used though and the reason why

1110
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:05,670
I'm bringing that up is because there's

1111
00:54:12,849 --> 00:54:08,970
the other stories about finding a vimana

1112
00:54:18,410 --> 00:54:12,859
and a cave in Afghanistan or or a

1113
00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:18,420
Stargate in in in in in Iraq these

1114
00:54:24,890 --> 00:54:21,660
things have a way of developing legs and

1115
00:54:26,750 --> 00:54:24,900
and continuing and not going away well

1116
00:54:28,789 --> 00:54:26,760
some some of these rumors to me anyway

1117
00:54:30,890 --> 00:54:28,799
are more believable and others so the

1118
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:30,900
idea of using acoustic weaponry to

1119
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:32,250
disable the opponent that's very

1120
00:54:36,589 --> 00:54:33,690
believable because we know what the

1121
00:54:39,230 --> 00:54:36,599
technology is and it exists and it's now

1122
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:39,240
being augmented and modified for

1123
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:42,240
domestic crowd control and the like so

1124
00:54:48,650 --> 00:54:46,079
that's that's a real thing as far as

1125
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:48,660
stargates I mean I rolled friend the

1126
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:49,410
late Jim Marrs

1127
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,079
I used to talk about this for a while I

1128
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:54,720
don't know if he continued to but I I

1129
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:56,970
chatted with Jim about he believed I

1130
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,520
think that there is something like a

1131
00:55:05,140 --> 00:55:01,920
Stargate that was found in Iraq and that

1132
00:55:07,549 --> 00:55:05,150
this was the actual reason for the the

1133
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:07,559
the second Iraqi war the one that really

1134
00:55:15,050 --> 00:55:12,980
I don't know that this is true as much

1135
00:55:17,150 --> 00:55:15,060
as I respected Jim and miss him to this

1136
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:17,160
day I don't know that that's true and I

1137
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:19,680
don't really know where the data is on

1138
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:22,530
this and it's a harder it's a bit of a

1139
00:55:26,810 --> 00:55:24,810
hurdle more of a hurdle for me doesn't

1140
00:55:33,380 --> 00:55:26,820
mean it's impossible but I just don't

1141
00:55:35,180 --> 00:55:33,390
know that it's true the vimana I got

1142
00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:35,190
some real problems with the monasteries

1143
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:38,310
in Afghanistan as I have with with a lot

1144
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:41,040
of claims about Vimanas in general it's

1145
00:55:45,260 --> 00:55:43,410
funny after my book UFOs for the 21st

1146
00:55:49,150 --> 00:55:45,270
century mine came out came out I did an

1147
00:55:53,060 --> 00:55:49,160
interview with Kerry Cassidy and the

1148
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:53,070
first question she just jumped out at me

1149
00:55:57,980 --> 00:55:54,480
it says why do you not believe in

1150
00:55:59,390 --> 00:55:57,990
Vimanas I was like Kerry I have a 460

1151
00:56:01,790 --> 00:55:59,400
page book I just wrote and this is like

1152
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:01,800
the one thing you're jumping on what I

1153
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:05,280
said though there's you know if we look

1154
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:06,720
at Vimanas there's you got the

1155
00:56:11,390 --> 00:56:08,730
Mahabharata and you've got the Rama Rama

1156
00:56:13,010 --> 00:56:11,400
Jana in the ancient Vedic texts and they

1157
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:13,020
do talk extensively about these things

1158
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:14,910
called Vimanas which were you could say

1159
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:18,510
chariots to the gods but I did point out

1160
00:56:24,140 --> 00:56:22,680
in that book and that most people who

1161
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:24,150
talk about Vimanas are actually

1162
00:56:31,070 --> 00:56:27,090
referring to a spurious text known as a

1163
00:56:34,820 --> 00:56:31,080
vimana Shastra and that was channeled

1164
00:56:37,010 --> 00:56:34,830
actually in the late 19th century and it

1165
00:56:38,510 --> 00:56:37,020
has been taken as an authentic amount of

1166
00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:38,520
text and it is not it is anything but

1167
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:40,440
that and that's the amount of text that

1168
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:42,810
talks about all the technical elements

1169
00:56:49,460 --> 00:56:46,890
of Vimanas and all the technology of how

1170
00:56:52,130 --> 00:56:49,470
to create a vimana and the fact that has

1171
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:52,140
mercury and so forth right that's really

1172
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:53,970
channeled from just a little over one

1173
00:56:59,180 --> 00:56:56,250
century ago so it's not authentic Vedic

1174
00:57:01,609 --> 00:56:59,190
ancient text it has nothing to do with

1175
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:01,619
the vimana traditions that existed in

1176
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:05,040
the in those texts so I I mean as a

1177
00:57:09,980 --> 00:57:07,050
responsible research it has to be

1178
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:09,990
discounted sorry but it's just it's not

1179
00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:12,720
authentic now someone can say well it's

1180
00:57:18,170 --> 00:57:14,640
authentic Channel and you can believe it

1181
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:18,180
or not but that's I I'm not going there

1182
00:57:22,589 --> 00:57:21,090
so my attitude about Vimanas is there's

1183
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:22,599
been a lot

1184
00:57:29,759 --> 00:57:27,249
that has been taken about the Vimanas

1185
00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:29,769
that I think is not legit on top of that

1186
00:57:35,849 --> 00:57:32,950
there's a lot of bad translations that

1187
00:57:38,849 --> 00:57:35,859
were done in the in the 50s and 60s on

1188
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:38,859
these ancient Indian texts including the

1189
00:57:43,859 --> 00:57:40,569
claim that there was an ancient nuclear

1190
00:57:45,329 --> 00:57:43,869
explosion in India thousands of years

1191
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:45,339
ago which people have heard about and

1192
00:57:49,559 --> 00:57:46,450
that's all based on just bad

1193
00:57:51,210 --> 00:57:49,569
translations so I I want to be really

1194
00:57:53,279 --> 00:57:51,220
careful I have been looking for the

1195
00:57:56,609 --> 00:57:53,289
longest time for a really good vedic

1196
00:58:00,210 --> 00:57:56,619
scholar like a good legitimate vedic

1197
00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:00,220
scholar to go over all of the instances

1198
00:58:06,749 --> 00:58:02,609
of Vimanas in the Mahabharata and the

1199
00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:06,759
Ramayana which are vastly longer than

1200
00:58:12,690 --> 00:58:08,950
even Homer's Iliad or any ancient taxi

1201
00:58:15,299 --> 00:58:12,700
can emit a huge huge hum and I just I

1202
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:15,309
don't know of an a Vedic scholar who

1203
00:58:19,469 --> 00:58:16,569
would be willing to do it but I would

1204
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:19,479
love to connect with them and and have

1205
00:58:24,089 --> 00:58:20,890
them to do some work on this

1206
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:24,099
the guy is Michael Cremo that that's who

1207
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:26,799
you want Michael Cremo is the dude let's

1208
00:58:33,569 --> 00:58:29,200
take a break right here and I'm

1209
00:58:36,509 --> 00:58:33,579
wondering once again where is my audio

1210
00:58:37,319 --> 00:58:36,519
it's just trippy around here Richard I

1211
00:58:39,749 --> 00:58:37,329
don't know what it is

1212
00:58:43,289 --> 00:58:39,759
that's me no no no I'm talking about my

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guest tonight Richard bleep in Doland

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[Music]

1283
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:37,880
hi this is Rob Reiner from anvil and

1284
01:02:44,799 --> 01:02:40,130
you're listening to Jimmy jr. tube radio

1285
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:44,809
calm what up this is combat and we

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01:02:52,370 --> 01:03:01,260
[Music]

1287
01:03:07,290 --> 01:03:03,810
all right welcome back beta blocker male

1288
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:07,300
shimmy church tonight continuing our

1289
01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:08,770
Thanksgiving week here

1290
01:03:16,530 --> 01:03:14,590
our guest is Richard Dolan and we've got

1291
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:16,540
a little bit of breaking news here just

1292
01:03:24,170 --> 01:03:19,050
want to put a damper on the show but

1293
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:24,180
David Cassidy has died he was 67 and

1294
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:27,250
there you go talking you know about our

1295
01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:30,490
childhood right Richard David I'm very

1296
01:03:35,700 --> 01:03:31,680
sad to hear that

1297
01:03:38,370 --> 01:03:35,710
67 man 67 years old

1298
01:03:40,859 --> 01:03:38,380
man you know I don't know if you had a

1299
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:40,869
sister but growing up you know I had an

1300
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:42,970
older sister and her bedroom was

1301
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:45,610
plastered with David Cassidy posters Oh

1302
01:03:52,020 --> 01:03:48,310
mind you I have a sister who's three

1303
01:03:54,420 --> 01:03:52,030
years younger than me and she David

1304
01:04:01,290 --> 01:03:54,430
Cassidy Shaun Cassidy and all the other

1305
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:01,300
team beat Donny Osmond unbelievable

1306
01:04:08,970 --> 01:04:05,110
David Cassidy 67 years old okay this is

1307
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:08,980
the the the UFO question I think that

1308
01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:14,530
today more so than ever in history this

1309
01:04:19,650 --> 01:04:17,080
question being brought to is every

1310
01:04:21,630 --> 01:04:19,660
single day by the mass media and and

1311
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:21,640
other organizations about the

1312
01:04:28,910 --> 01:04:23,770
possibility of alien life and exoplanets

1313
01:04:32,790 --> 01:04:28,920
and fast radio bursts in and contact and

1314
01:04:34,740 --> 01:04:32,800
all of these Dyson spheres and and so

1315
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:34,750
forth it is something that has talked

1316
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:37,890
about every single day we are this week

1317
01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:40,210
was about two weeks ago but it was

1318
01:04:45,060 --> 01:04:42,100
brought up again yesterday the first

1319
01:04:47,790 --> 01:04:45,070
interstellar object right as passing

1320
01:04:50,460 --> 01:04:47,800
through our solar system and it is

1321
01:04:52,859 --> 01:04:50,470
taking this dramatic turn and is now

1322
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:52,869
leaving the solar system but it did a

1323
01:05:00,240 --> 01:04:57,010
did a flyby you know by our Sun and

1324
01:05:02,430 --> 01:05:00,250
Earth very interesting are the object

1325
01:05:06,390 --> 01:05:02,440
itself is pretty trippy

1326
01:05:09,660 --> 01:05:06,400
as as it has been described but what is

1327
01:05:12,330 --> 01:05:09,670
it that what is it that the government

1328
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:12,340
knows I mean that's the question that's

1329
01:05:15,180 --> 01:05:14,410
on the front of everybody's mind what is

1330
01:05:20,670 --> 01:05:15,190
it that

1331
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:20,680
they know is it does it go as far as you

1332
01:05:27,180 --> 01:05:23,770
know retrieved and crashed craft you

1333
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:27,190
know alien bodies and direct contact you

1334
01:05:33,660 --> 01:05:31,450
know what what is it that they know well

1335
01:05:35,609 --> 01:05:33,670
they surely we say they let's talk about

1336
01:05:37,579 --> 01:05:35,619
those people in the government who are

1337
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:37,589
actually in the know because most

1338
01:05:41,309 --> 01:05:39,490
government and even most people in a

1339
01:05:44,579 --> 01:05:41,319
classified world are not in the know

1340
01:05:46,170 --> 01:05:44,589
about this we those people who have

1341
01:05:48,329 --> 01:05:46,180
deeply researched this matter we all

1342
01:05:50,460 --> 01:05:48,339
understand the subject is on what is

1343
01:05:53,550 --> 01:05:50,470
known as a need-to-know basis so for

1344
01:05:55,530 --> 01:05:53,560
that very tiny elite group of people who

1345
01:05:58,410 --> 01:05:55,540
understand this yes they have recovered

1346
01:06:01,579 --> 01:05:58,420
crash UFOs absolutely they have the

1347
01:06:04,050 --> 01:06:01,589
evidence for that is actually

1348
01:06:06,089 --> 01:06:04,060
overwhelming and we're not simply

1349
01:06:11,930 --> 01:06:06,099
talking about Roswell oh the Roswell

1350
01:06:14,550 --> 01:06:11,940
case is a really good one but there are

1351
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:14,560
almost certainly have been a number of

1352
01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:18,970
other very very good UFO cases that

1353
01:06:22,859 --> 01:06:20,710
we've now over the years have been

1354
01:06:24,510 --> 01:06:22,869
uncovering I think the Roswell case is a

1355
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:24,520
good one but their escape Gerardo and

1356
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:28,930
Missourian 1941 there is the Aztec New

1357
01:06:35,460 --> 01:06:33,760
Mexico case of 1948 which was a case

1358
01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:35,470
that was I think a lot of people

1359
01:06:41,970 --> 01:06:36,880
debunked it for many years but I think

1360
01:06:44,579 --> 01:06:41,980
has rightly been resurrected rests

1361
01:06:45,930 --> 01:06:44,589
resuscitated as a case by uh Scott and

1362
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:45,940
Suzanne Ramsey who did excellent

1363
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:48,250
research on this and and there have been

1364
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:50,530
others there's a very I think a

1365
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:52,480
reasonably good case that a UFO went out

1366
01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:56,890
outside Las Vegas in 1962 the researcher

1367
01:07:01,740 --> 01:06:59,440
Kevin Randle did some very good work on

1368
01:07:04,349 --> 01:07:01,750
this and I think it's very good stuff

1369
01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:04,359
there's other cases in the 1950s in the

1370
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:07,510
US and out of the u.s. that appear to

1371
01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:09,130
have been crash retrievals and not all

1372
01:07:14,550 --> 01:07:12,310
of them have the best of strongest

1373
01:07:17,490 --> 01:07:14,560
evidence but there's enough pointing to

1374
01:07:18,900 --> 01:07:17,500
a lot of them that I think it's very

1375
01:07:20,490 --> 01:07:18,910
likely to assume that yes there been a

1376
01:07:22,859 --> 01:07:20,500
number of these and it's important to

1377
01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:22,869
mention this because without the idea of

1378
01:07:28,609 --> 01:07:26,160
a crash retrieval it's very possible for

1379
01:07:31,370 --> 01:07:28,619
a skeptic or an apologist for the

1380
01:07:33,559 --> 01:07:31,380
government to say well you know maybe

1381
01:07:35,329 --> 01:07:33,569
there's a phenomenon out there but to

1382
01:07:36,980 --> 01:07:35,339
talk about a conspiracy is ridiculous

1383
01:07:38,990 --> 01:07:36,990
because the government just they're

1384
01:07:40,910 --> 01:07:39,000
incompetent but they're not they're not

1385
01:07:42,289 --> 01:07:40,920
diabolical the way you're saying they

1386
01:07:44,839 --> 01:07:42,299
just don't know what they're doing and

1387
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:44,849
it's possible to make that argument if

1388
01:07:49,819 --> 01:07:47,010
if there's no evidence of actual

1389
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:49,829
physical contact or crash retrievals but

1390
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:53,010
once you have a good case that military

1391
01:07:59,180 --> 01:07:55,770
personnel have recovered tangible

1392
01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:59,190
objects and bodies and this does seem to

1393
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:01,680
be the case then you can't just say well

1394
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:04,730
they're ignorantly you know mindlessly

1395
01:08:09,319 --> 01:08:07,890
denying a reality there instead they're

1396
01:08:10,670 --> 01:08:09,329
actively covering it up and it's an

1397
01:08:13,490 --> 01:08:10,680
important reality that they're covering

1398
01:08:14,839 --> 01:08:13,500
up on top of that like any researcher

1399
01:08:19,539 --> 01:08:14,849
who's been doing this long enough myself

1400
01:08:22,610 --> 01:08:19,549
included him spoken to so many

1401
01:08:24,769 --> 01:08:22,620
responsible military government people

1402
01:08:27,410 --> 01:08:24,779
who have talked about genuine UFO

1403
01:08:28,789 --> 01:08:27,420
encounters so forget the crash

1404
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:28,799
retrievals for a moment there's just

1405
01:08:34,999 --> 01:08:32,640
been an overabundance of extremely well

1406
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:35,009
documented UFO encounters that we have

1407
01:08:42,769 --> 01:08:38,489
had since the nineteen before the 1940s

1408
01:08:45,919 --> 01:08:42,779
frankly but since the 40s for sure so so

1409
01:08:48,140 --> 01:08:45,929
that's going on and it's been very very

1410
01:08:54,620 --> 01:08:48,150
clearly documented in my work as well as

1411
01:08:57,650 --> 01:08:54,630
other work that it's been a very strong

1412
01:09:00,229 --> 01:08:57,660
concern by military agencies to keep

1413
01:09:03,669 --> 01:09:00,239
this quiet and they did a good job for a

1414
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:03,679
long time about keeping it quiet but

1415
01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:06,330
documents are out you can read them I

1416
01:09:08,780 --> 01:09:07,920
can read them anyone listening can read

1417
01:09:11,180 --> 01:09:08,790
them they're from the Freedom of

1418
01:09:13,849 --> 01:09:11,190
Information Act they're not make-believe

1419
01:09:15,470 --> 01:09:13,859
they're legitimate they're real they

1420
01:09:17,900 --> 01:09:15,480
have statements by General Nathan

1421
01:09:20,209 --> 01:09:17,910
twining in 1947 stating that the

1422
01:09:22,669 --> 01:09:20,219
phenomenon is real not visionary or

1423
01:09:24,079 --> 01:09:22,679
fictitious as a direct quote from a man

1424
01:09:26,570 --> 01:09:24,089
who later became chief of staff of the

1425
01:09:29,209 --> 01:09:26,580
US Air Force who wrote about these

1426
01:09:30,740 --> 01:09:29,219
objects having extreme rates of climb

1427
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:30,750
and maneuverability and the evasive

1428
01:09:35,900 --> 01:09:33,449
action and how they are circular or

1429
01:09:39,849 --> 01:09:35,910
elliptical in shape flat on bottom and

1430
01:09:41,829 --> 01:09:39,859
domed on top I mean good grief in 1947

1431
01:09:45,999 --> 01:09:41,839
what is flat on bottom and domed on top

1432
01:09:48,669 --> 01:09:46,009
we're talking about military reports so

1433
01:09:52,450 --> 01:09:48,679
now that was classified information at

1434
01:09:54,340 --> 01:09:52,460
the time it came out during our moment

1435
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:54,350
in American history when the Freedom of

1436
01:09:58,270 --> 01:09:55,850
Information Act was actually worth

1437
01:10:00,340 --> 01:09:58,280
something and it was something new and a

1438
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:00,350
lot of documents came out at in the late

1439
01:10:05,740 --> 01:10:03,920
1970s that was one of them it is an

1440
01:10:09,220 --> 01:10:05,750
undeniable document and it's only one of

1441
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:09,230
many many many that prove they don't

1442
01:10:12,910 --> 01:10:10,610
suggest they don't hit but they prove

1443
01:10:15,250 --> 01:10:12,920
that the United States classified world

1444
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:15,260
has been deeply interested I there's a

1445
01:10:20,919 --> 01:10:18,250
memo from early 1949 in the FBI

1446
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:20,929
discussing how the matter of UFOs is

1447
01:10:25,899 --> 01:10:23,810
considered top-secret by intelligence

1448
01:10:28,930 --> 01:10:25,909
officers of the US military and then

1449
01:10:31,300 --> 01:10:28,940
talking onward in this particular memo

1450
01:10:34,540 --> 01:10:31,310
about how there been unbelievable

1451
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:34,550
sightings over sensitive American

1452
01:10:38,979 --> 01:10:36,320
installations like the Atomic Energy

1453
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:38,989
Commission nuclear plants at Los Alamos

1454
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:42,050
for example that's not a nuclear plant

1455
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:43,690
but the Atomic Energy Commission

1456
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:45,770
installation at Los Alamos which is a

1457
01:10:49,899 --> 01:10:47,570
big deal and there were nuclear

1458
01:10:52,419 --> 01:10:49,909
facilities and Oak Ridge and in Hanford

1459
01:10:56,290 --> 01:10:52,429
state of Washington that had overflights

1460
01:10:58,600 --> 01:10:56,300
of incredible I mean UFOs all through

1461
01:11:01,720 --> 01:10:58,610
the 50s and we know about it we know

1462
01:11:03,660 --> 01:11:01,730
about it because again an accident of

1463
01:11:06,939 --> 01:11:03,670
history the Freedom of Information Act

1464
01:11:10,510 --> 01:11:06,949
proved it by having certain documents

1465
01:11:12,430 --> 01:11:10,520
released there was a airspace violation

1466
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:12,440
that I think is one of the most

1467
01:11:18,930 --> 01:11:15,170
interesting documents from 1950 back in

1468
01:11:21,700 --> 01:11:18,940
the July of 1950 which talked about how

1469
01:11:23,530 --> 01:11:21,710
objects round in form were being seen

1470
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:23,540
over the Hanford Atomic Energy

1471
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:26,570
Commission plant these are America's

1472
01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:29,090
most important facilities at the time

1473
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:31,310
they were doing nuclear energy in an era

1474
01:11:37,090 --> 01:11:33,770
where that was a brand-new cutting-edge

1475
01:11:38,709 --> 01:11:37,100
form of energy the memo stated Air Force

1476
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:38,719
jets attempted to intercept with

1477
01:11:43,419 --> 01:11:41,090
negative results they talked about

1478
01:11:45,399 --> 01:11:43,429
anti-aircraft battalions and radar units

1479
01:11:49,180 --> 01:11:45,409
and Air Force fighter squadrons being

1480
01:11:52,089 --> 01:11:49,190
alerted for this I mean again putting

1481
01:11:53,609 --> 01:11:52,099
oneself into context in 1950 and knowing

1482
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:53,619
that this happened you have to ask

1483
01:12:00,270 --> 01:11:57,010
good grief what was going on and that is

1484
01:12:02,370 --> 01:12:00,280
only one of countless other documents

1485
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:02,380
that we have so to answer your question

1486
01:12:07,709 --> 01:12:04,000
what does the government know well they

1487
01:12:10,379 --> 01:12:07,719
know enough all right people in the US

1488
01:12:11,850 --> 01:12:10,389
military and allied militaries and a non

1489
01:12:14,490 --> 01:12:11,860
allied militaries like Russia and China

1490
01:12:16,910 --> 01:12:14,500
they know enough that this is a

1491
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:16,920
phenomenon that is beyond their control

1492
01:12:22,859 --> 01:12:20,050
that does what it does they can't stop

1493
01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:22,869
it and that's the end of it they just

1494
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:25,960
can't stop it they've recovered some of

1495
01:12:29,010 --> 01:12:27,760
these things they don't want to tell the

1496
01:12:30,750 --> 01:12:29,020
public about it they've got their

1497
01:12:33,930 --> 01:12:30,760
reasons but we have our reasons as well

1498
01:12:35,580 --> 01:12:33,940
for wanting to know the truth that's

1499
01:12:37,830 --> 01:12:35,590
where we're at yeah this is what's

1500
01:12:42,629 --> 01:12:37,840
fascinating for me Richard is you know

1501
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:42,639
100 years ago or there abouts this

1502
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:48,489
planet lit up radio signals television

1503
01:12:54,030 --> 01:12:52,030
signals have now been emanating from

1504
01:12:55,500 --> 01:12:54,040
this planet going out at the speed of

1505
01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:55,510
light for a hundred years

1506
01:13:04,229 --> 01:12:58,960
that means planets that are a hundred

1507
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:04,239
light years away are aware of us right

1508
01:13:08,910 --> 01:13:06,010
if there is intelligent life there if

1509
01:13:11,010 --> 01:13:08,920
you cut that time in half you know 50

1510
01:13:12,839 --> 01:13:11,020
years out 50 years back if they were

1511
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:12,849
traveling to us at the speed of light

1512
01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:19,650
let's say now that whole 1947 1950 wave

1513
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:23,199
you know because 50 years prior to that

1514
01:13:28,109 --> 01:13:25,570
you have Edison and Marconi and Tesla

1515
01:13:32,399 --> 01:13:28,119
doing freakish things at high voltages

1516
01:13:35,310 --> 01:13:32,409
right and so this is this is taking off

1517
01:13:37,530 --> 01:13:35,320
from Earth at the speed of light heading

1518
01:13:41,300 --> 01:13:37,540
out into the universe we now have let

1519
01:13:44,910 --> 01:13:41,310
them know our level of technology

1520
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:44,920
certainly once they got here in the

1521
01:13:49,530 --> 01:13:47,710
1940s 1950s they found out that you know

1522
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:49,540
earth is you know where the hillbillies

1523
01:13:55,290 --> 01:13:52,449
of of the universe right we don't really

1524
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:55,300
have that kind of technology we haven't

1525
01:13:58,270 --> 01:13:57,010
visited the Stars yet we haven't visited

1526
01:14:00,220 --> 01:13:58,280
our Moon we're not

1527
01:14:03,430 --> 01:14:00,230
traveling off the play we barely have v2

1528
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:03,440
rockets at that point but they are

1529
01:14:10,090 --> 01:14:06,290
certainly were aware of us but there

1530
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:10,100
wasn't a way to communicate you know for

1531
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:13,250
them to communicate with us directly so

1532
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:16,130
these were flybys you know what I mean

1533
01:14:21,130 --> 01:14:18,530
they were observations I think that's an

1534
01:14:22,900 --> 01:14:21,140
interesting theory there's other ways

1535
01:14:27,130 --> 01:14:22,910
you could look at it I mean the fact is

1536
01:14:29,350 --> 01:14:27,140
that there were UFO sightings prior not

1537
01:14:31,780 --> 01:14:29,360
simply to nineteen the 1940s but prior

1538
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:31,790
to the 20th century and I think some

1539
01:14:39,010 --> 01:14:36,410
pretty good ones actually so I mean my

1540
01:14:42,370 --> 01:14:39,020
attitude is that we have been under

1541
01:14:46,420 --> 01:14:42,380
observation for a very long time I mean

1542
01:14:48,780 --> 01:14:46,430
since ancient times probably sure but it

1543
01:14:51,220 --> 01:14:48,790
is I mean I wonder just as you do that

1544
01:14:53,290 --> 01:14:51,230
you know our technological explosion

1545
01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:53,300
really in the 19th century late 19th

1546
01:14:59,610 --> 01:14:55,490
century would have gotten some attention

1547
01:15:03,880 --> 01:14:59,620
of other people my feeling is I think

1548
01:15:05,290 --> 01:15:03,890
yeah our our light radio waves and so on

1549
01:15:08,290 --> 01:15:05,300
would have would be going out at the

1550
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:08,300
speed of light and so on and but I have

1551
01:15:14,020 --> 01:15:12,050
a feeling that that there have to be end

1552
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:14,030
runs or loopholes around the speed of

1553
01:15:19,660 --> 01:15:17,110
light limit I really do believe this and

1554
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:19,670
I'm not a physicist so you could say you

1555
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:21,650
know what does my opinion matter but I

1556
01:15:24,940 --> 01:15:23,210
do try to follow what qualified

1557
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:24,950
physicists say about this and I know

1558
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:27,050
that there are a number of them who not

1559
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:28,850
explained why they the speed of light

1560
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:32,080
might be in certain ways surmounted

1561
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:35,840
space time is not simply what Isaac

1562
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:38,290
Newton said it was 300 years ago it's a

1563
01:15:42,090 --> 01:15:40,970
it can be manipulated in one way or

1564
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:42,100
another

1565
01:15:47,770 --> 01:15:45,290
gravity can manipulate it and speed at

1566
01:15:51,790 --> 01:15:47,780
which you're going through space itself

1567
01:15:53,860 --> 01:15:51,800
can manipulate time and so I think that

1568
01:15:56,050 --> 01:15:53,870
our physics have not yet caught up to

1569
01:15:58,270 --> 01:15:56,060
the UFO phenomenon and I think whoever

1570
01:16:00,280 --> 01:15:58,280
these other beings are are using

1571
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:00,290
technology that we don't yet have online

1572
01:16:05,380 --> 01:16:02,570
that we haven't figured out so I don't

1573
01:16:09,070 --> 01:16:05,390
think that they would need to you know

1574
01:16:11,500 --> 01:16:09,080
to get messages from Tesla or Edison or

1575
01:16:11,950 --> 01:16:11,510
see reruns of I Love Lucy for that

1576
01:16:14,110 --> 01:16:11,960
matter

1577
01:16:15,790 --> 01:16:14,120
to find out what we're doing but I do

1578
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:15,800
think that our technological explosion

1579
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:17,330
would get their attention I think that

1580
01:16:21,450 --> 01:16:19,130
they would realize ah Stanton Friedman

1581
01:16:26,140 --> 01:16:21,460
says the kids have the the matches now

1582
01:16:29,950 --> 01:16:26,150
and we got to keep an eye on them and I

1583
01:16:35,740 --> 01:16:29,960
do think I mean once human civilization

1584
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:35,750
got a got some serious technology by

1585
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:37,730
means of like mass weaponry and a

1586
01:16:42,550 --> 01:16:38,930
weapons that could really kill a lot of

1587
01:16:45,070 --> 01:16:42,560
people aircraft missiles nuclear weapons

1588
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:45,080
and then going into the computer age if

1589
01:16:50,830 --> 01:16:47,810
there's any observing intelligence and

1590
01:16:52,270 --> 01:16:50,840
there are that development of ours would

1591
01:16:56,260 --> 01:16:52,280
have to get their attention

1592
01:16:57,790 --> 01:16:56,270
I would have to you know for think of

1593
01:17:01,390 --> 01:16:57,800
human civilization for thousands of

1594
01:17:04,450 --> 01:17:01,400
years if you're a a a medieval peasant

1595
01:17:07,450 --> 01:17:04,460
in Europe or a member of a Native

1596
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:07,460
American tribe and you or wherever you

1597
01:17:14,650 --> 01:17:10,640
were if you're in China a thousand years

1598
01:17:15,729 --> 01:17:14,660
ago and if you saw a UFO what exactly

1599
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:15,739
could you do about it

1600
01:17:20,340 --> 01:17:17,600
who could you talk to about it that you

1601
01:17:23,350 --> 01:17:20,350
probably couldn't right all you had were

1602
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:23,360
oral history traditions of your tribe or

1603
01:17:28,570 --> 01:17:26,410
your people and so human beings

1604
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:28,580
capability of dealing with and

1605
01:17:33,010 --> 01:17:30,050
interacting with this phenomenon was

1606
01:17:35,590 --> 01:17:33,020
extremely limited for almost all of our

1607
01:17:37,540 --> 01:17:35,600
history you know but it's not the case

1608
01:17:39,790 --> 01:17:37,550
in the last hundred years it's not at

1609
01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:39,800
all we're up in the air ourselves we

1610
01:17:42,850 --> 01:17:41,450
have weapons and maybe we can't take

1611
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:42,860
them out in a fight but maybe we can

1612
01:17:47,310 --> 01:17:45,530
annoy them we have the ability to detect

1613
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:47,320
them in ways that we're not conceivable

1614
01:17:54,130 --> 01:17:51,410
electronically for example and so we got

1615
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:54,140
their attention since the 20th century

1616
01:17:58,900 --> 01:17:56,050
there's no question in my mind and

1617
01:18:03,820 --> 01:17:58,910
whoever they are and I think there's

1618
01:18:05,020 --> 01:18:03,830
several versions of them we got their

1619
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:05,030
attention and I think they're watching

1620
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:06,770
us very carefully and I do I think we're

1621
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:07,850
a little bit more than hillbillies

1622
01:18:14,890 --> 01:18:11,770
actually I think they may be

1623
01:18:18,940 --> 01:18:14,900
intellectually superior to us in certain

1624
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:18,950
ways I would imagine but I don't know

1625
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:20,960
that they're superior to us in all kinds

1626
01:18:26,030 --> 01:18:22,410
of ways and

1627
01:18:27,710 --> 01:18:26,040
I suspect that they would recognize that

1628
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:27,720
we're quite interesting and that we have

1629
01:18:29,810 --> 01:18:29,280
a lot of potential both positive and

1630
01:18:35,420 --> 01:18:29,820
negative

1631
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:35,430
well Hillbillies can be interesting like

1632
01:18:43,130 --> 01:18:39,570
this though we don't have the ability

1633
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:43,140
well allegedly let's just sail it we

1634
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:46,290
don't have the ability to to go to them

1635
01:18:50,900 --> 01:18:48,570
but they have the technology to come

1636
01:18:53,450 --> 01:18:50,910
here to visit us so if that is the case

1637
01:18:56,900 --> 01:18:53,460
they're intelligent from whatever that

1638
01:18:59,300 --> 01:18:56,910
is is thousands if not millions of years

1639
01:19:02,690 --> 01:18:59,310
more developed than us that that's just

1640
01:19:06,290 --> 01:19:02,700
that's just simple math and so them

1641
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:06,300
coming here to 300 years ago before

1642
01:19:11,390 --> 01:19:10,050
electricity they've you know there

1643
01:19:13,670 --> 01:19:11,400
wouldn't be anything for them to

1644
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:13,680
electronically pick up or communications

1645
01:19:19,610 --> 01:19:15,690
or you know there isn't anything there

1646
01:19:21,020 --> 01:19:19,620
so yeah we would be the hillbillies of

1647
01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:21,030
the universe in that respect

1648
01:19:27,980 --> 01:19:23,310
I agree with that in a sense like we're

1649
01:19:29,510 --> 01:19:27,990
not dealing with them as equals no and

1650
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:29,520
you know people who talk about what

1651
01:19:32,690 --> 01:19:31,290
let's establish relationships with them

1652
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:32,700
enjoying the Galactic Federation of

1653
01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:34,890
Light or join them in some way or

1654
01:19:42,230 --> 01:19:37,440
another I think this is fantasy

1655
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:42,240
these are their beings do not they may

1656
01:19:48,440 --> 01:19:45,930
look kindly on us or not but they're not

1657
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:48,450
going to see us as equals and I don't

1658
01:19:52,430 --> 01:19:50,010
think that there's any evidence really

1659
01:19:55,070 --> 01:19:52,440
that they're openly communicating with

1660
01:19:57,380 --> 01:19:55,080
us in a way that we can really gather

1661
01:19:59,180 --> 01:19:57,390
now there's claims that the u.s.

1662
01:20:03,020 --> 01:19:59,190
black-budget community the breakaway

1663
01:20:04,700 --> 01:20:03,030
group civilization may have some ability

1664
01:20:06,410 --> 01:20:04,710
limited to communicate with him I

1665
01:20:10,910 --> 01:20:06,420
remember years ago reading a book called

1666
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:10,920
above black by Dan Sherman and that's an

1667
01:20:17,180 --> 01:20:13,530
interesting book and I don't think I

1668
01:20:19,190 --> 01:20:17,190
disbelieve his claims which is that he

1669
01:20:21,130 --> 01:20:19,200
was part of a group to engage in

1670
01:20:25,190 --> 01:20:21,140
communication with these other beings

1671
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:25,200
totally possible but I don't think that

1672
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:29,610
they're actively working in a open

1673
01:20:33,710 --> 01:20:31,410
communication with with us because I

1674
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:33,720
they may not be able to their brains may

1675
01:20:36,319 --> 01:20:35,370
not working eyed spoke with an abductee

1676
01:20:38,270 --> 01:20:36,329
a years ago

1677
01:20:42,649 --> 01:20:38,280
is some actually someone featured in one

1678
01:20:44,510 --> 01:20:42,659
of John Mack's books on abduction and he

1679
01:20:46,490 --> 01:20:44,520
was really interesting and he said look

1680
01:20:49,339 --> 01:20:46,500
you know my experience with these other

1681
01:20:51,740 --> 01:20:49,349
beings he was abducted by greys is that

1682
01:20:53,629 --> 01:20:51,750
they they're not like us their minds

1683
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:53,639
don't operate like our minds and he said

1684
01:20:57,589 --> 01:20:55,770
I felt like they had to slow themselves

1685
01:20:59,689 --> 01:20:57,599
down dramatically just to be able to

1686
01:21:02,720 --> 01:20:59,699
communicate at all with me

1687
01:21:04,970 --> 01:21:02,730
and it was all telepathic and he said

1688
01:21:07,490 --> 01:21:04,980
furthermore that they in his view seem

1689
01:21:10,700 --> 01:21:07,500
to operate as a kind of hive mind where

1690
01:21:12,260 --> 01:21:10,710
there was no privacy among any any of

1691
01:21:14,780 --> 01:21:12,270
their beings thoughts like they were all

1692
01:21:18,589 --> 01:21:14,790
part of a collective thought process

1693
01:21:19,729 --> 01:21:18,599
right right so if that's true how are

1694
01:21:23,660 --> 01:21:19,739
they gonna be able to communicate with

1695
01:21:25,399 --> 01:21:23,670
us you know we have examples in Star

1696
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:25,409
Trek like when the Borg tried to speak

1697
01:21:30,169 --> 01:21:28,290
to the enterprise Captain Picard but I

1698
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:30,179
mean that's Hollywood how would they

1699
01:21:36,049 --> 01:21:34,170
actually do it I don't know and I don't

1700
01:21:37,669 --> 01:21:36,059
know if it's very easy for them well I

1701
01:21:40,250 --> 01:21:37,679
would it be for us to communicate with

1702
01:21:43,129 --> 01:21:40,260
with gorillas that we're studying in the

1703
01:21:45,620 --> 01:21:43,139
in the forests of Africa how would we

1704
01:21:49,399 --> 01:21:45,630
communicate with them well I'm one of

1705
01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:49,409
the if we if we just let the imagination

1706
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:52,400
go for a second and we start to look at

1707
01:21:57,770 --> 01:21:55,050
the quantum side of things or the

1708
01:22:01,540 --> 01:21:57,780
ability the nonlocality or locality the

1709
01:22:05,450 --> 01:22:01,550
ability to you know affect something of

1710
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:05,460
vast distances instantaneously and can

1711
01:22:11,930 --> 01:22:09,090
thought travel that same way and if

1712
01:22:14,299 --> 01:22:11,940
there is that type of communication like

1713
01:22:17,390 --> 01:22:14,309
you're saying of the hive mind which I

1714
01:22:19,970 --> 01:22:17,400
fully I'm fully aware of that and

1715
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:19,980
believe that it's possible that that

1716
01:22:26,419 --> 01:22:23,010
communication is everywhere right it's

1717
01:22:29,299 --> 01:22:26,429
just everywhere and so are there people

1718
01:22:32,510 --> 01:22:29,309
on this planet that are able to tap into

1719
01:22:34,939 --> 01:22:32,520
that vast communication network because

1720
01:22:38,030 --> 01:22:34,949
it would be a technology that you and I

1721
01:22:41,149 --> 01:22:38,040
wouldn't understand you know but 10,000

1722
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:41,159
years from now Richard we are not as

1723
01:22:45,229 --> 01:22:43,290
humans we're not gonna have these bodies

1724
01:22:47,540 --> 01:22:45,239
we're not gonna have these meat sacks

1725
01:22:49,069 --> 01:22:47,550
right well let me let me jump in I'll

1726
01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:49,079
just say I believe that there are people

1727
01:22:52,820 --> 01:22:49,920
who

1728
01:22:54,110 --> 01:22:52,830
are able to tap into that I'm a strong

1729
01:22:54,890 --> 01:22:54,120
believer in psy phenomenon

1730
01:22:56,660 --> 01:22:54,900
remote-viewing

1731
01:23:00,020 --> 01:22:56,670
right there are definitely individuals

1732
01:23:03,169 --> 01:23:00,030
who have better abilities than the

1733
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:03,179
average person right at tapping into

1734
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:05,010
things that are going on in other

1735
01:23:09,950 --> 01:23:06,690
dimensions mm-hmm

1736
01:23:11,330 --> 01:23:09,960
I can't prove it as clearly

1737
01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:11,340
scientifically as I would like but

1738
01:23:14,689 --> 01:23:12,960
there's an overwhelming amount of

1739
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:14,699
evidence for the reality of remote

1740
01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:17,130
viewing I'm engaged to a woman who's a

1741
01:23:21,410 --> 01:23:20,400
first-rate remote viewer I hope she

1742
01:23:24,620 --> 01:23:21,420
doesn't mind me saying that

1743
01:23:26,209 --> 01:23:24,630
but but people know this and and and

1744
01:23:28,820 --> 01:23:26,219
I've known a lot of other really

1745
01:23:31,010 --> 01:23:28,830
first-rate remote viewers in my life so

1746
01:23:32,630 --> 01:23:31,020
I don't need to be convinced about it so

1747
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:32,640
I think some of them can tap in the

1748
01:23:38,930 --> 01:23:37,290
question that we have though is how

1749
01:23:41,180 --> 01:23:38,940
accurate are they all the time can

1750
01:23:44,180 --> 01:23:41,190
people miss read or misinterpret what

1751
01:23:46,250 --> 01:23:44,190
they see and is every claim that every

1752
01:23:47,810 --> 01:23:46,260
person makes about their downloads and

1753
01:23:50,150 --> 01:23:47,820
communications without with other beings

1754
01:23:52,550 --> 01:23:50,160
to be believed I have to say the answer

1755
01:23:54,890 --> 01:23:52,560
to that is no for every legitimate

1756
01:23:57,430 --> 01:23:54,900
person that I believe I've met I've met

1757
01:24:00,890 --> 01:23:57,440
a lot who I think are not legit or who

1758
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:00,900
are delusional frankly and so it's

1759
01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:03,210
really coming down to a place where you

1760
01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:05,280
have to decide on an individual basis

1761
01:24:10,729 --> 01:24:06,960
like who's legitimate it's hard to know

1762
01:24:13,790 --> 01:24:10,739
because you're going on someone's claim

1763
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:13,800
that that they cannot yet we're not yet

1764
01:24:19,490 --> 01:24:17,370
able to verify to a third party most of

1765
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:19,500
this stuff so we're really at a

1766
01:24:26,030 --> 01:24:23,570
disadvantage here well and going back to

1767
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:26,040
what I brought up earlier about you know

1768
01:24:32,090 --> 01:24:28,320
what do they know you know what what do

1769
01:24:35,390 --> 01:24:32,100
they know what if if there was going to

1770
01:24:37,189 --> 01:24:35,400
be a tipping moment where they were

1771
01:24:38,990 --> 01:24:37,199
forced into it I'm talking about

1772
01:24:40,790 --> 01:24:39,000
Washington and other world governments

1773
01:24:44,330 --> 01:24:40,800
where they are forced to directly

1774
01:24:47,180 --> 01:24:44,340
address the UFO subject whether it's the

1775
01:24:52,850 --> 01:24:47,190
classic definition of disclosure or not

1776
01:24:55,790 --> 01:24:52,860
what would be that tipping point I'm

1777
01:24:57,890 --> 01:24:55,800
sorry the tipping point of yeah what

1778
01:25:00,080 --> 01:24:57,900
would force in denial to disclosure yeah

1779
01:25:02,729 --> 01:25:00,090
what would force the hand

1780
01:25:09,060 --> 01:25:02,739
well you know I've speculated about this

1781
01:25:16,229 --> 01:25:09,070
a lot certainly a a sighting a good

1782
01:25:19,380 --> 01:25:16,239
sighting that's publicly recorded and by

1783
01:25:21,390 --> 01:25:19,390
multiple people that is somehow able to

1784
01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:21,400
get out into the public domain and get a

1785
01:25:29,070 --> 01:25:24,880
discussion going that is not explainable

1786
01:25:34,050 --> 01:25:29,080
we need good recordings we need good

1787
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:34,060
video and from multiple sources and you

1788
01:25:37,860 --> 01:25:35,410
know despite the fact that on YouTube

1789
01:25:40,890 --> 01:25:37,870
there are probably hundreds of fresh

1790
01:25:42,180 --> 01:25:40,900
videos that come out every year most

1791
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:42,190
there's just not that interesting or

1792
01:25:45,390 --> 01:25:43,449
they're there they're a little bit

1793
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:45,400
interesting or but there and if they're

1794
01:25:50,370 --> 01:25:47,489
interesting then there's not enough

1795
01:25:54,030 --> 01:25:50,380
sources you know recording something

1796
01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:54,040
multiply the problem that we face phase

1797
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:56,560
with video is simply that it's everyone

1798
01:25:59,040 --> 01:25:58,000
knows it's easier and easier to fake

1799
01:26:01,380 --> 01:25:59,050
video so you

1800
01:26:04,380 --> 01:26:01,390
we need good video from multiple sources

1801
01:26:08,910 --> 01:26:04,390
with good testimony that gets a

1802
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:08,920
conversation going that forces an agency

1803
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:11,290
to have to explain something that would

1804
01:26:19,709 --> 01:26:16,000
be one another could be a leak the right

1805
01:26:23,010 --> 01:26:19,719
kind of leak not not a hail-mary leak

1806
01:26:24,959 --> 01:26:23,020
like what we've been expecting I mean we

1807
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:24,969
seemed Li expect these every year from

1808
01:26:29,010 --> 01:26:27,070
different people who claim to have their

1809
01:26:30,630 --> 01:26:29,020
inside sources and then the sources

1810
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:30,640
simply disappear I'm thinking of Tom

1811
01:26:36,180 --> 01:26:34,480
DeLonge who a year ago had his sources

1812
01:26:37,500 --> 01:26:36,190
high-level people and I don't know where

1813
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:37,510
these people have gone and all he's got

1814
01:26:42,570 --> 01:26:38,890
something else that's happening and it's

1815
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:42,580
not disclosure whatever it is so what we

1816
01:26:48,990 --> 01:26:46,810
need is genuine high-level credible

1817
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:49,000
sources who are willing to go on the

1818
01:26:56,790 --> 01:26:53,530
record or failing that a WikiLeaks type

1819
01:26:59,340 --> 01:26:56,800
of event where something is something

1820
01:27:02,070 --> 01:26:59,350
genuine leaks out that is damning

1821
01:27:04,050 --> 01:27:02,080
information the more I think about this

1822
01:27:05,729 --> 01:27:04,060
the more I think that that is maybe the

1823
01:27:07,919 --> 01:27:05,739
most likely scenario that's something

1824
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:07,929
something is ripped out digitally and

1825
01:27:12,410 --> 01:27:09,810
put out

1826
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:12,420
for the world to talk about I think

1827
01:27:17,330 --> 01:27:14,130
that's a possibility let's take a break

1828
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:17,340
right here I agree though with the with

1829
01:27:21,170 --> 01:27:19,410
the WikiLeaks possibility because that

1830
01:27:23,180 --> 01:27:21,180
is out of that is out of their control

1831
01:27:24,500 --> 01:27:23,190
that's that's plain and simple that is

1832
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:24,510
something that they couldn't control

1833
01:27:27,950 --> 01:27:27,210
obviously we know how effective that can

1834
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:27,960
be

1835
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:30,210
our guest tonight is Richard bleep and

1836
01:27:33,890 --> 01:27:32,490
Dolan happy Thanksgiving everybody I'm

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01:27:34,340 --> 01:27:33,900
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you are listening to fade to black with

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Jenny Church on the game change in

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network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to Jimmy Church this is a

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revolution the revolution will not be

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televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black

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happy Thanksgiving everybody

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our guest tonight is Richard leap and

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Dolan and follows on Twitter a date

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George radio Richard do you ever get

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tired of hearing that Richard bleep and

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Dolan no I love it Jimmy I love it it's

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you're the one who says it but no it's

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very nice

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you can always say that okay good good I

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just hope that I'm not offending there

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I've got a couple of questions here in

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that a popped up in Twitter and one of

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them this comes from Larry and he says

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does mr. Dolan think that any world

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government has had contact or

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face-to-face meetings with aliens I

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don't know if they have I don't have

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knowledge or evidence of that one way or

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the other I do have I think there's

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strong evidence that Russia and has had

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a long-standing interest in connection

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to UFOs just as the United States has

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every bit as detailed every bit as many

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military encounters and they've had

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their own crash retrievals as well

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Russia definitely I think there's reason

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to believe that the Russian government

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is just about as on top of this subject

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as the United States government so it's

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it's possible that they have well the

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Chinese government is a it's a harder

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one to discern just because we really

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know a lot less there are there's reason

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to believe that the Chinese military has

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had its own history of UFO encounters

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the few Chinese researchers who

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communicated with the West I mean they

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really in so many ways still a very

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closed off community it seems to me but

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the few who have communicated to the

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west at least I've indicated that there

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there are rumors of crash retrievals

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within the Chinese military but I don't

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have any hard and fast information so

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whether they're communicating I don't

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know and then as far as other

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governments

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almost every other government is a

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subsidiary owned and fully owned by the

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United States anyway

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I mean Britain has no independence

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France NATO even Israel these are these

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countries are under the US thumb and so

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they're not they're not gonna say boo

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none of them without the United States

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overseeing at all you know we're in an

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era now of post Edward Snowden where we

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just know for a fact that the NSA is

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monitoring every single communication of

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every single foreign leader from Angela

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Merkel of Germany's her cell phone to

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the former president of Brazil Dilma

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Rousseff and her entire ministry and

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cabinet that's before the u.s.

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essentially had a soft coup to oust her

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all of these national leaders they're

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all monitored and no one does anything

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or very very little without the United

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States signing off on it now there I've

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got a few things that are coming in here

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going back to communication through

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thought and your comments on that and

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Nancy she wanted to know some

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clarification are you saying that there

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was no credence to communication with et

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through thought that is not what I said

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what I said is that I believe it it

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happens I believe there are legitimate

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cases where it happens and I also said I

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believe that there are many cases

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because I've spoken to these people

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where there's no credibility behind what

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they sing and so it comes down to

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deciding who's credible and who is and

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that's a tricky issue yeah but I think

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it's possible I think look we have

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interesting minds and interesting brains

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that have capabilities that are a lot

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beyond that the classical materialistic

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conception of what you know traditional

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scientists say reality as we we know

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this but that's a long way off from

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saying that everyone who makes a claim

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is correct about it yeah right right

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well it's funny how I watch the ebb and

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flow of of Twitter and the chat rooms

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you know throughout the show and what

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01:35:53,330 --> 01:35:51,750
gets ignited into you know flames into a

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conversation

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and and telepathy and communication

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through the mind is something that this

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audience is very much interested in and

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I just love it when when the

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01:36:08,089 --> 01:36:03,719
conversation kicks up like this question

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just came in via email please ask

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Richard wooden telepathy be a plus

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imagine no more misunderstandings

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whether between governments or

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individuals me and and I enjoyed your

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comment on that but for me I don't know

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if if that's a good man first of all

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with respect to the person who wrote it

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that's a very strong miss hundred

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understanding of why people fight each

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other and why they kill each other and

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why they steal they don't steal and kill

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because they misunderstand each other

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they steal because they're greedy they

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steal because they want things they

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steal because they want power so it's

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not because like the u.s. is

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misunderstanding Russia these days that

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there's fights going on that's that's

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nothing to do with it it's because they

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lie and they want to get what they want

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and so if there were telepathy like

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first of all we're assuming it's perfect

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telepathy where there's never a

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misunderstanding telepathically and of

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course that's I've don't believe that we

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have that capability it's one thing to

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01:37:13,850 --> 01:37:11,580
say we've got psy capabilities it's

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another to say that we're infallible or

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that the alien beings for that matter

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are infallible telepathically people

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01:37:22,810 --> 01:37:21,000
make mistakes and that can happen

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telepathically as well as in our words

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so I don't think that that's going to

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solve any problem sorry yeah I know I

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01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:32,159
don't know if I want to know what you

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01:37:37,370 --> 01:37:34,770
are thinking you don't know what you're

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01:37:39,399 --> 01:37:37,380
thinking and I don't know how to know

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01:37:44,149 --> 01:37:39,409
what people listening are thinking

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01:37:46,430 --> 01:37:44,159
that's a bad road because I have some

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01:37:48,140 --> 01:37:46,440
twisted fun thoughts man but I don't

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need to share them with the world

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01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:52,679
you know and I mean if you walk it

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01:38:00,919 --> 01:37:57,530
wouldn't it also be a noisy environment

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01:38:03,350 --> 01:38:00,929
you know the imagine two or three people

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01:38:06,770 --> 01:38:03,360
in a room and and that going on but how

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01:38:09,799 --> 01:38:06,780
about like a concert or a shopping

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01:38:12,260 --> 01:38:09,809
that would be a very congested you

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01:38:14,299 --> 01:38:12,270
wouldn't even be able to think yeah who

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would want that I don't know about you

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and I don't think I would want most

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people's thoughts near my mind and it's

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not nothing personal folks but I just

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don't think I do so I you know one thing

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01:38:29,890 --> 01:38:26,940
that Tracy and I do every night we go

2063
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:29,900
into airplane mode phone phone goes away

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after a certain time and and that's it

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so if I don't want to get phone calls

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after a certain time I certainly don't

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01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:40,320
want to hear anyone's thoughts now what

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01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:42,690
do you think about and let's look

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01:38:50,899 --> 01:38:47,449
forward into 2018 because this

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01:38:52,910 --> 01:38:50,909
disclosure in the D word is what has

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01:38:54,549 --> 01:38:52,920
been talked about for the last you know

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five six seven eight nine ten years

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01:38:59,899 --> 01:38:56,699
certainly a lot today but there's

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01:39:03,020 --> 01:38:59,909
another D word that is but you know it's

2075
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:03,030
drip drip drip hmm

2076
01:39:10,100 --> 01:39:06,090
drip drip drip the new D word well I

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01:39:12,260 --> 01:39:10,110
like that we're going our society is

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01:39:14,089 --> 01:39:12,270
going through a very very radical change

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01:39:16,250 --> 01:39:14,099
in it sometimes it's easy for us to

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01:39:20,149 --> 01:39:16,260
forget that because we're we're living

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01:39:23,839 --> 01:39:20,159
it you know but we are definitely going

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01:39:25,490 --> 01:39:23,849
through radical changes and all you have

2083
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:25,500
to do is step back 20 years and just to

2084
01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:27,449
see where we were 20 years ago and see

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01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:29,760
where we are now in terms of our ability

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01:39:35,029 --> 01:39:31,920
to communicate with each other in the

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01:39:36,790 --> 01:39:35,039
nation around the world so now we're

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01:39:42,189 --> 01:39:36,800
radically transforming ourselves and

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01:39:46,189 --> 01:39:42,199
that ability to communicate globally has

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01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:46,199
very much ramped up our discussion of

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01:39:50,270 --> 01:39:47,250
the UFO phenomenon

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01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:50,280
it has invaded popular culture in ways

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01:39:55,609 --> 01:39:52,050
that were not even the case in the 90s

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01:39:57,919 --> 01:39:55,619
or in the 80s right so I I agree with

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01:39:59,479 --> 01:39:57,929
that and there is a definite cultural

2096
01:40:01,399 --> 01:39:59,489
transformation that's happening and I

2097
01:40:03,729 --> 01:40:01,409
think that that direction is going

2098
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:03,739
toward more openness about the UFO

2099
01:40:12,169 --> 01:40:08,730
subjects I think it is so that that'll

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01:40:14,419 --> 01:40:12,179
happen whether that's going to translate

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01:40:16,609 --> 01:40:14,429
into a disclosure is another question I

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01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:16,619
you know I wrote a booklet on disclosure

2103
01:40:22,370 --> 01:40:20,010
in the Trump era earlier this year

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01:40:25,279 --> 01:40:22,380
Trump was a new president at the time

2105
01:40:26,569 --> 01:40:25,289
but even then I could start to see like

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01:40:31,759 --> 01:40:26,579
it was very obvious that he was

2107
01:40:33,319 --> 01:40:31,769
essentially you know whether he was the

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01:40:36,020 --> 01:40:33,329
real deal as a candidate or not he's

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01:40:38,709 --> 01:40:36,030
obviously took on the almost totally the

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01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:38,719
policies of Hillary Clinton so he became

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01:40:44,180 --> 01:40:41,730
he became Hillary Clinton by the spring

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of 2018 in terms of at least geopolitics

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01:40:49,490 --> 01:40:47,670
foreign policy was identical where as a

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01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:49,500
candidate he was very different but as a

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01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:52,050
president it just as proof you know that

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01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:54,449
you really can't do anything radically

2117
01:40:59,779 --> 01:40:55,920
different when you get into the seat of

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01:41:01,970 --> 01:40:59,789
power they force you I mean if he was

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01:41:03,919 --> 01:41:01,980
legitimately opposed to the national

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01:41:05,930 --> 01:41:03,929
security policy which he seemed to be as

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01:41:07,700 --> 01:41:05,940
a candidate he certainly isn't as a

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01:41:09,910 --> 01:41:07,710
president so everything it's it's just

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01:41:15,620 --> 01:41:09,920
more the same so I don't really think

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01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:15,630
you know I speculated that Trump was you

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01:41:20,419 --> 01:41:18,690
know a wild card enough you're where the

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01:41:21,649 --> 01:41:20,429
narcissism would be like his Teflon

2127
01:41:23,930 --> 01:41:21,659
coating would be the thing that saved

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01:41:25,700 --> 01:41:23,940
him in other words here was a guy who

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01:41:27,529 --> 01:41:25,710
would stood all the cultural shaming

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01:41:29,870 --> 01:41:27,539
that was thrown at him for almost two

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01:41:31,129 --> 01:41:29,880
years solid as a candidate and it only

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01:41:33,169 --> 01:41:31,139
seemed to make him stronger and I

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01:41:34,189 --> 01:41:33,179
thought well great because that'll put

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01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:34,199
him in the White House and if he

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01:41:39,020 --> 01:41:36,449
actually is interested in UFOs and I I

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01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:39,030
was sure that he is interested in UFOs

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01:41:43,490 --> 01:41:41,760
and I'm still sure he is I mean the guy

2138
01:41:46,910 --> 01:41:43,500
was a private citizen for his whole life

2139
01:41:50,660 --> 01:41:46,920
he wasn't obligated like a politician to

2140
01:41:51,979 --> 01:41:50,670
just dismiss UFOs and on top of that

2141
01:41:53,509 --> 01:41:51,989
he's very friendly with alternative

2142
01:41:54,919 --> 01:41:53,519
radio it was a good buddy of Alex Jones

2143
01:41:57,770 --> 01:41:54,929
and a lot of other alternative radio

2144
01:42:00,979 --> 01:41:57,780
people out there so I thought you know

2145
01:42:04,100 --> 01:42:00,989
that of all the major political figures

2146
01:42:07,069 --> 01:42:04,110
we've had in the last lifetime I thought

2147
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:07,079
this guy actually for all of his ego for

2148
01:42:14,810 --> 01:42:10,130
all of his annoyances could have been

2149
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:14,820
the presidential the president who

2150
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:16,530
actually could just say hey you know

2151
01:42:20,419 --> 01:42:18,449
what here's a 2 a.m. tweet everyone

2152
01:42:23,029 --> 01:42:20,429
knows aliens are real you know you could

2153
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:23,039
almost see him doing that no I could and

2154
01:42:26,750 --> 01:42:25,530
I I wondered if that would happen but I

2155
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:26,760
don't think that's going to happen at

2156
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:29,250
all at all I didn't even think it was

2157
01:42:32,350 --> 01:42:30,210
going to happen back then but I

2158
01:42:34,420 --> 01:42:32,360
definitely don't know I think he's been

2159
01:42:37,100 --> 01:42:34,430
completely

2160
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:37,110
co-opted taken over by the exact same

2161
01:42:41,780 --> 01:42:38,850
national security crowd that Hillary

2162
01:42:45,170 --> 01:42:41,790
Clinton was bringing in I don't see any

2163
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:45,180
major differences frankly and our you

2164
01:42:49,550 --> 01:42:47,850
know can there so there's Republican

2165
01:42:50,900 --> 01:42:49,560
things that he's doing that Republicans

2166
01:42:53,060 --> 01:42:50,910
would do as opposed to with Democrats

2167
01:42:54,620 --> 01:42:53,070
too but in terms of any radical changes

2168
01:43:01,490 --> 01:42:54,630
I don't see anything are you suggesting

2169
01:43:06,590 --> 01:43:01,500
that the the deep state that he has been

2170
01:43:10,370 --> 01:43:06,600
outspoken about is now I'd gotten that

2171
01:43:13,130 --> 01:43:10,380
control that he that he resists my

2172
01:43:14,540 --> 01:43:13,140
opinion is that that is the case I mean

2173
01:43:16,340 --> 01:43:14,550
they went right after him right out of

2174
01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:16,350
the gate they you know they started with

2175
01:43:19,940 --> 01:43:17,760
this whole Russian nonsense and it is

2176
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:19,950
nonsense and people who believe it just

2177
01:43:24,140 --> 01:43:21,090
proved to me that they're ignorant about

2178
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:24,150
global politics Russia is not the enemy

2179
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:27,810
sorry it isn't Russia did not rigged our

2180
01:43:32,510 --> 01:43:29,250
elections sorry they didn't do that

2181
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:32,520
either all of that is it is a canard

2182
01:43:38,750 --> 01:43:36,330
that's a fancy word for a lie so but

2183
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:38,760
it's being used politically to kneecap

2184
01:43:42,230 --> 01:43:40,530
him I mean he said one of the most

2185
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:42,240
unforgivable things as a candidate which

2186
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:44,010
was let's be friends with Russia why not

2187
01:43:49,190 --> 01:43:47,250
how dare he I mean people forget these

2188
01:43:50,780 --> 01:43:49,200
like he actually said let's try to have

2189
01:43:53,270 --> 01:43:50,790
decent relationships with Russia a

2190
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:53,280
totally reasonable thing to say as a

2191
01:43:58,550 --> 01:43:55,770
matter of fact about what you're seeing

2192
01:44:00,200 --> 01:43:58,560
is the deep state that is the deep deep

2193
01:44:02,390 --> 01:44:00,210
intelligence community that's really

2194
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:02,400
running things behind the scenes and

2195
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:05,090
they are real they're not interested in

2196
01:44:10,070 --> 01:44:07,770
friendship with Russia at all they need

2197
01:44:12,710 --> 01:44:10,080
a boogie man and Russia is the perfect

2198
01:44:15,020 --> 01:44:12,720
one for them because Russia does stand

2199
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:15,030
in the way of certain US geopolitical

2200
01:44:19,790 --> 01:44:17,850
goals which is basically dominate all

2201
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:19,800
the oil all the natural gas dominate the

2202
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:22,410
natural gas supply to Europe and much

2203
01:44:27,260 --> 01:44:25,770
more and so Russia isn't just rolling

2204
01:44:29,180 --> 01:44:27,270
over like they did in the 90s when

2205
01:44:30,500 --> 01:44:29,190
everyone was happy that the drunk named

2206
01:44:32,420 --> 01:44:30,510
Boris Yeltsin was running the country

2207
01:44:33,950 --> 01:44:32,430
right right now they got a guy named

2208
01:44:36,710 --> 01:44:33,960
Putin who's saying no we're not actually

2209
01:44:39,710 --> 01:44:36,720
gonna roll over and so he has to be

2210
01:44:41,090 --> 01:44:39,720
demonized Trump had an idea that we

2211
01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:41,100
could work with Russia I think that was

2212
01:44:44,810 --> 01:44:43,440
a smart idea but that will never be

2213
01:44:46,580 --> 01:44:44,820
allowed to happen apparently you can

2214
01:44:47,899 --> 01:44:46,590
just see what's going on they took out

2215
01:44:51,729 --> 01:44:47,909
Michael Flynn right

2216
01:44:53,719 --> 01:44:51,739
out of the gate over a spurious

2217
01:44:55,969 --> 01:44:53,729
ridiculous alleged connection with

2218
01:44:57,649 --> 01:44:55,979
Russia which is not true and they've

2219
01:44:59,509 --> 01:44:57,659
done the rest they you know they they

2220
01:45:01,100 --> 01:44:59,519
keep the drip drip drip with the whole

2221
01:45:04,969 --> 01:45:01,110
Russia nonsense

2222
01:45:06,949 --> 01:45:04,979
so there's no way I mean if he really I

2223
01:45:08,870 --> 01:45:06,959
think there might have been a chance

2224
01:45:12,319 --> 01:45:08,880
early on in its presidency when he could

2225
01:45:14,989 --> 01:45:12,329
have forthrightly stood up against us

2226
01:45:16,759 --> 01:45:14,999
and defended people like Flynn and but

2227
01:45:20,270 --> 01:45:16,769
he didn't do it he rolled over

2228
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:20,280
maybe they frightened him maybe they but

2229
01:45:26,179 --> 01:45:23,489
the other thing about Trump you know for

2230
01:45:27,739 --> 01:45:26,189
all however outspoken he was as a

2231
01:45:31,250 --> 01:45:27,749
candidate it was obvious he didn't know

2232
01:45:32,870 --> 01:45:31,260
a lot in terms of global politics and my

2233
01:45:36,649 --> 01:45:32,880
opinion just listening to the things he

2234
01:45:38,179 --> 01:45:36,659
said whereas like you know Hillary

2235
01:45:40,540 --> 01:45:38,189
Clinton certainly didn't know a lot but

2236
01:45:42,469 --> 01:45:40,550
she just happened to be evil to the core

2237
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:42,479
Trump just seemed like he didn't know

2238
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:45,449
what he was talking about and but he's

2239
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:48,449
just been totally checkmated so I don't

2240
01:45:53,239 --> 01:45:50,489
really see any leeway for him this is

2241
01:45:56,719 --> 01:45:53,249
what I find interesting if you turn back

2242
01:45:58,729 --> 01:45:56,729
the table two years ago three years ago

2243
01:46:02,359 --> 01:45:58,739
and some of our conversations that you

2244
01:46:06,049 --> 01:46:02,369
and I had back then and John Podesta and

2245
01:46:10,759 --> 01:46:06,059
his famous tweet and you know and and

2246
01:46:13,909 --> 01:46:10,769
how he was at that time the the the hope

2247
01:46:15,799 --> 01:46:13,919
of the UFO community and disclosure and

2248
01:46:17,779 --> 01:46:15,809
pushing this forward and he knows

2249
01:46:20,179 --> 01:46:17,789
something and he's upset that he didn't

2250
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:20,189
push this policy in the Obama

2251
01:46:27,500 --> 01:46:23,489
administration and and here we are today

2252
01:46:29,449 --> 01:46:27,510
you can't even say Podesta's name in the

2253
01:46:32,330 --> 01:46:29,459
UFO community now I mean he is so

2254
01:46:36,140 --> 01:46:32,340
tarnished and and you know not only

2255
01:46:39,020 --> 01:46:36,150
through WikiLeaks but the pizza gate and

2256
01:46:42,500 --> 01:46:39,030
and pedophilia and and everything else

2257
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:42,510
Wow you just went there right but the

2258
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:44,610
black people are not going in that

2259
01:46:49,939 --> 01:46:47,010
direction and and they they really want

2260
01:46:52,939 --> 01:46:49,949
to dismiss all of that and from my part

2261
01:46:55,310 --> 01:46:52,949
I haven't I have to say like I haven't

2262
01:46:57,949 --> 01:46:55,320
spent the time and really thrown myself

2263
01:46:59,959 --> 01:46:57,959
into that and there's allegations I

2264
01:47:01,780 --> 01:46:59,969
where I read went to Snopes on the whole

2265
01:47:04,180 --> 01:47:01,790
pizza gate thing and the one thing I

2266
01:47:06,340 --> 01:47:04,190
have to say I mean Snopes is a joke

2267
01:47:09,610 --> 01:47:06,350
let's just put that right out there but

2268
01:47:10,930 --> 01:47:09,620
Snopes you know while they tried to they

2269
01:47:13,660 --> 01:47:10,940
said it's been debunked

2270
01:47:15,790 --> 01:47:13,670
I read their whole explanation for this

2271
01:47:18,490 --> 01:47:15,800
and I saw no debunking in their

2272
01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:18,500
explanation whatsoever zero so I'm like

2273
01:47:23,140 --> 01:47:20,000
where's your evidence if you're gonna do

2274
01:47:25,390 --> 01:47:23,150
bunk it and you know this is claims of

2275
01:47:27,550 --> 01:47:25,400
course of course of pedophilia at high

2276
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:27,560
levels of the power structures journey

2277
01:47:33,730 --> 01:47:30,650
everyone knows everyone knows that this

2278
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:33,740
goes on at high levels of power that

2279
01:47:39,370 --> 01:47:37,370
it's been out there for generations it's

2280
01:47:42,580 --> 01:47:39,380
in Hollywood it's in Washington it's

2281
01:47:48,460 --> 01:47:42,590
around the world it's in London it's in

2282
01:47:50,530 --> 01:47:48,470
Europe power people in power have what

2283
01:47:51,820 --> 01:47:50,540
they need excitement because everything

2284
01:47:53,020 --> 01:47:51,830
else bores them because they've got

2285
01:47:54,730 --> 01:47:53,030
everything they want so what do they

2286
01:47:57,700 --> 01:47:54,740
want they want forbidden fruit right

2287
01:47:58,840 --> 01:47:57,710
clearly they do this and they want

2288
01:48:01,840 --> 01:47:58,850
things that most of us would find

2289
01:48:02,860 --> 01:48:01,850
utterly revolting because it turns them

2290
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:02,870
on because it's different it's like a

2291
01:48:07,150 --> 01:48:05,690
drug for them there's been study after

2292
01:48:09,550 --> 01:48:07,160
study and claim and witness after

2293
01:48:11,730 --> 01:48:09,560
witness it's out there so whether the

2294
01:48:14,050 --> 01:48:11,740
pizza gate allegations are true or not I

2295
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:14,060
wouldn't shock me if they were but I

2296
01:48:17,980 --> 01:48:16,130
don't know for a fact but the Podesta

2297
01:48:20,380 --> 01:48:17,990
family in Podesta and his brother I

2298
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:20,390
should say have been implicated

2299
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:22,610
so yeah the UFO feel - they want nothing

2300
01:48:27,490 --> 01:48:24,410
to do with Podesta I will say for my

2301
01:48:29,470 --> 01:48:27,500
part I was never on board the pedestrian

2302
01:48:31,870 --> 01:48:29,480
and I never I never felt that this guy

2303
01:48:34,660 --> 01:48:31,880
was going to be a friend to disclosure I

2304
01:48:37,030 --> 01:48:34,670
just never I mean back in o2 when he did

2305
01:48:38,910 --> 01:48:37,040
a I think it was two or three in his

2306
01:48:41,290 --> 01:48:38,920
press conference where he made a very

2307
01:48:43,660 --> 01:48:41,300
forthright and proper statement about

2308
01:48:48,250 --> 01:48:43,670
the UFO subject I want to say this he

2309
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:48,260
did that was a good thing and and I

2310
01:48:52,950 --> 01:48:50,210
don't I wouldn't dispute that he's

2311
01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:52,960
interested in UFOs I'm sure he is and

2312
01:48:59,320 --> 01:48:56,000
that's intelligent because UFOs are a

2313
01:49:02,640 --> 01:48:59,330
valid subject to be interested in but we

2314
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:02,650
have to understand Podesta like a lot of

2315
01:49:07,810 --> 01:49:04,970
you know is what was one of the most

2316
01:49:10,060 --> 01:49:07,820
powerful people in Washington he was

2317
01:49:13,540 --> 01:49:10,070
he's not a neophyte he's a seasoned

2318
01:49:14,860 --> 01:49:13,550
political master this guy was Bill

2319
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:14,870
Clinton's chief of staff he was Hillary

2320
01:49:17,710 --> 01:49:15,770
Clinton's camp

2321
01:49:20,980 --> 01:49:17,720
sure he was a brat Barack Obama's

2322
01:49:23,770 --> 01:49:20,990
transition chief he knew everyone knows

2323
01:49:25,090 --> 01:49:23,780
everyone and so for him just to go out

2324
01:49:29,170 --> 01:49:25,100
willy-nilly and say oh yeah we need

2325
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:29,180
disclosure what exactly it would prompt

2326
01:49:31,300 --> 01:49:30,890
him to say that I wondered again and

2327
01:49:33,870 --> 01:49:31,310
again

2328
01:49:37,350 --> 01:49:33,880
I mean Podesta would have to know that

2329
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:37,360
genuine disclosure would be the most

2330
01:49:43,540 --> 01:49:41,330
revolutionary earth-shattering applecart

2331
01:49:45,970 --> 01:49:43,550
upsetting statement you could imagine

2332
01:49:48,580 --> 01:49:45,980
and it would be something that would not

2333
01:49:52,090 --> 01:49:48,590
be easy to contain particularly for his

2334
01:49:53,440 --> 01:49:52,100
candidate Hillary Clinton to think that

2335
01:49:55,570 --> 01:49:53,450
they would be able to get on top of

2336
01:49:59,760 --> 01:49:55,580
disclosure and manage it and use it to

2337
01:50:02,080 --> 01:49:59,770
win the only reason I believe Podesta

2338
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:02,090
did encourage Hillary Clinton to talk

2339
01:50:07,420 --> 01:50:03,770
about UFOs during the campaign and he

2340
01:50:12,510 --> 01:50:07,430
did was because he realized

2341
01:50:17,590 --> 01:50:15,820
it's not that the third rail you know

2342
01:50:19,390 --> 01:50:17,600
that's the the kiss of death as it were

2343
01:50:20,980 --> 01:50:19,400
for a politician like it was even ten

2344
01:50:23,770 --> 01:50:20,990
years ago for Dennis Kucinich she's back

2345
01:50:25,870 --> 01:50:23,780
in awake where he he was merely a UFO

2346
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:25,880
witness and they used that to destroy

2347
01:50:32,530 --> 01:50:29,330
him in a couple of days oh it was it was

2348
01:50:36,310 --> 01:50:32,540
just horrible horrible really terrible

2349
01:50:37,780 --> 01:50:36,320
Kucinich was a good man and and was a

2350
01:50:40,900 --> 01:50:37,790
genuine witness who had two other people

2351
01:50:42,460 --> 01:50:40,910
with him by the way when he saw I think

2352
01:50:44,410 --> 01:50:42,470
was a black triangle back in the early

2353
01:50:47,260 --> 01:50:44,420
1980s on the property of Shirley

2354
01:50:50,410 --> 01:50:47,270
MacLaine his friend anyway the point is

2355
01:50:52,780 --> 01:50:50,420
that Podesta I think realized in the

2356
01:50:55,300 --> 01:50:52,790
campaign of 2016 that the public is in a

2357
01:50:57,010 --> 01:50:55,310
different place and the UFOs have a

2358
01:50:59,890 --> 01:50:57,020
certain cool factor attached to them and

2359
01:51:04,060 --> 01:50:59,900
by talking about UFOs in a superficial

2360
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:04,070
way which is all Hillary ever did that

2361
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:06,530
maybe there's a UFO vote out there and

2362
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:10,130
of course they were lucky because they

2363
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:12,170
were able to bring up the UFO subject

2364
01:51:17,170 --> 01:51:14,930
because they knew the New York Times and

2365
01:51:19,180 --> 01:51:17,180
Washington Post and CNN would never ever

2366
01:51:22,150 --> 01:51:19,190
ever call it out for it would never

2367
01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:22,160
attack them for it and they didn't the

2368
01:51:26,890 --> 01:51:24,080
New York Times which always makes fun of

2369
01:51:29,580 --> 01:51:26,900
UFOs wrote a puff piece on Hillary in

2370
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:29,590
UFOs the one thing that they

2371
01:51:32,129 --> 01:51:30,610
when they mentioned it during the

2372
01:51:33,899 --> 01:51:32,139
campaign and they just wouldn't attack

2373
01:51:36,089 --> 01:51:33,909
her could you imagine if Trump had

2374
01:51:37,169 --> 01:51:36,099
talked about UFOs at the candidate New

2375
01:51:41,250 --> 01:51:37,179
York Times would have been all over him

2376
01:51:43,589 --> 01:51:41,260
but they they just let Hillary do it so

2377
01:51:45,780 --> 01:51:43,599
so I think Podesta was smart he knew

2378
01:51:47,879 --> 01:51:45,790
they had the media in their pocket for

2379
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:47,889
the most part other than Fox they had

2380
01:51:54,060 --> 01:51:50,650
95% of the US media completely owned by

2381
01:51:56,729 --> 01:51:54,070
them and so they could afford to broach

2382
01:51:58,500 --> 01:51:56,739
the UFO subject knowing that there was a

2383
01:52:00,240 --> 01:51:58,510
bit of a vote out there a bit of a

2384
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:00,250
market and maybe they tapped into some

2385
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:02,610
of it well and he brought up DeLong

2386
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:05,290
before the break and and to go back and

2387
01:52:12,990 --> 01:52:09,130
visit this because when when everything

2388
01:52:16,649 --> 01:52:13,000
started to now I think what DeLong is

2389
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:16,659
trying to do is cool I appreciate that

2390
01:52:21,419 --> 01:52:19,210
and if I was in his position if I could

2391
01:52:23,780 --> 01:52:21,429
put that together I would do the very

2392
01:52:26,790 --> 01:52:23,790
same thing that he is doing no doubt but

2393
01:52:29,910 --> 01:52:26,800
back then when the WikiLeaks dump

2394
01:52:32,910 --> 01:52:29,920
happened in the emails hit and the long

2395
01:52:35,879 --> 01:52:32,920
was exposed you know in writing to

2396
01:52:38,490 --> 01:52:35,889
Podesta about UFOs when that outing

2397
01:52:41,330 --> 01:52:38,500
happened and then the pizza gate thing

2398
01:52:44,459 --> 01:52:41,340
happened and then you know Podesta was

2399
01:52:47,879 --> 01:52:44,469
thrown out of the UFO community very

2400
01:52:50,550 --> 01:52:47,889
very quickly suddenly DeLong the one

2401
01:52:53,339 --> 01:52:50,560
thing that propped him up with the to

2402
01:52:57,570 --> 01:52:53,349
the Stars and and this this Podesta

2403
01:53:02,160 --> 01:52:57,580
connection he he distanced himself when

2404
01:53:03,930 --> 01:53:02,170
he did the the live internet press

2405
01:53:06,330 --> 01:53:03,940
briefing last month I'm talking about

2406
01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:06,340
too long and to the stars who was

2407
01:53:10,979 --> 01:53:09,040
missing Podesta you know he's not there

2408
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:10,989
he's not part of it and he isn't spoken

2409
01:53:16,979 --> 01:53:14,290
about now as well and I just think it

2410
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:16,989
speaks volumes how quickly something can

2411
01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:19,210
turn it was never clear to me that

2412
01:53:22,830 --> 01:53:21,280
Podesta was fully on board anyway if you

2413
01:53:24,899 --> 01:53:22,840
go through the WikiLeaks releases

2414
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:24,909
there's nothing by Podesta that's out

2415
01:53:29,399 --> 01:53:26,560
there there's there's like no statements

2416
01:53:31,379 --> 01:53:29,409
that that we have a Podesta saying oh my

2417
01:53:34,770 --> 01:53:31,389
god this is amazing stuff well done I

2418
01:53:36,839 --> 01:53:34,780
mean what we have is we know that DeLong

2419
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:36,849
was in communication with Podesta we

2420
01:53:40,169 --> 01:53:38,530
know that he had a Google hangout with

2421
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:40,179
Podesta along with some of his people

2422
01:53:45,630 --> 01:53:43,450
like McCaslin and the

2423
01:53:50,820 --> 01:53:45,640
- gentlemen mm-hmm propelling the

2424
01:53:52,170 --> 01:53:50,830
Lockheed gentlemen and NORAD I've got

2425
01:53:56,730 --> 01:53:52,180
them at the tip of my tongue anyway the

2426
01:53:58,440 --> 01:53:56,740
thing is he he community he reached out

2427
01:54:00,990 --> 01:53:58,450
to Podesta I don't know how much Podesta

2428
01:54:03,330 --> 01:54:01,000
reached out to him it's not clear to me

2429
01:54:06,450 --> 01:54:03,340
that this was any of Podesta's

2430
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:06,460
initiative so personally I don't know

2431
01:54:13,380 --> 01:54:08,530
how much on board Podesta was ever with

2432
01:54:16,410 --> 01:54:13,390
what Tom DeLonge was was doing his a

2433
01:54:18,210 --> 01:54:16,420
halt to the Stars Academy I I mean

2434
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:18,220
people have tried criticizing this as

2435
01:54:22,710 --> 01:54:20,170
saying oh it's just marketing it's just

2436
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:22,720
trying to make money well let him make

2437
01:54:25,860 --> 01:54:24,130
money people are allowed to make money

2438
01:54:30,780 --> 01:54:25,870
and they're even allowed to make money

2439
01:54:32,220 --> 01:54:30,790
in the UFO field just this is not

2440
01:54:33,780 --> 01:54:32,230
disclosure I don't know what his

2441
01:54:36,660 --> 01:54:33,790
business planned it makes no sense to me

2442
01:54:38,220 --> 01:54:36,670
how are you gonna make money how are you

2443
01:54:40,710 --> 01:54:38,230
gonna raise enough money for her to

2444
01:54:42,660 --> 01:54:40,720
compete with Lockheed skunkworks and

2445
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:42,670
create UFO tech I have no idea how he

2446
01:54:46,050 --> 01:54:43,690
thinks he's going to do that

2447
01:54:49,050 --> 01:54:46,060
he's got some very interesting brilliant

2448
01:54:50,670 --> 01:54:49,060
people on board but I have not the

2449
01:54:52,980 --> 01:54:50,680
slightest clue how he thinks he's going

2450
01:54:54,870 --> 01:54:52,990
to be able to generate money with a

2451
01:54:56,820 --> 01:54:54,880
venture that's half science and half

2452
01:54:59,370 --> 01:54:56,830
entertainment what's that all about

2453
01:55:02,730 --> 01:54:59,380
I don't know so the business model makes

2454
01:55:05,340 --> 01:55:02,740
no sense to me the idea of wanting to

2455
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:05,350
get the UFO subject out there raise

2456
01:55:12,110 --> 01:55:07,930
consciousness with it yes create good

2457
01:55:14,850 --> 01:55:12,120
quality videos do it create intelligent

2458
01:55:17,310 --> 01:55:14,860
pieces of information for people to grab

2459
01:55:19,500 --> 01:55:17,320
on to the UFO subject I think that's we

2460
01:55:23,970 --> 01:55:19,510
need me then if he can do that then more

2461
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:23,980
power to him he had said this was about

2462
01:55:30,570 --> 01:55:26,890
two three weeks ago that he was getting

2463
01:55:32,340 --> 01:55:30,580
ready to release and I talked to Peter

2464
01:55:36,030 --> 01:55:32,350
La Venta last week on coast-to-coast

2465
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:36,040
about this that there were a bunch of

2466
01:55:42,620 --> 01:55:39,370
videos that he was about to release that

2467
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:42,630
had not been seen by the public before

2468
01:55:49,170 --> 01:55:46,810
I'm still waiting for those did you hear

2469
01:55:51,060 --> 01:55:49,180
about this and if he does release I mean

2470
01:55:52,140 --> 01:55:51,070
how does that affect you do you think

2471
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:52,150
that there would be something

2472
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:54,850
revolutionary to be released well I

2473
01:55:57,899 --> 01:55:57,130
didn't know that so videos that would be

2474
01:56:00,390 --> 01:55:57,909
released

2475
01:56:02,850 --> 01:56:00,400
by whom and saying what didn't do my Tom

2476
01:56:05,340 --> 01:56:02,860
yes tom is in possession of videos that

2477
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:05,350
have not been seen in the public or

2478
01:56:11,729 --> 01:56:10,210
released to the public with UFOs we'll

2479
01:56:14,700 --> 01:56:11,739
have a lot of respect for Peter Levin de

2480
01:56:21,030 --> 01:56:14,710
Peter Levin de I know him personally and

2481
01:56:24,030 --> 01:56:21,040
I think very highly of Peter so I just

2482
01:56:26,070 --> 01:56:24,040
his judgment so I guess all I would say

2483
01:56:28,439 --> 01:56:26,080
is if Peter Levin de is saying that he's

2484
01:56:30,180 --> 01:56:28,449
got reason to think that Tom DeLonge has

2485
01:56:31,830 --> 01:56:30,190
got something interesting then sure I'd

2486
01:56:34,860 --> 01:56:31,840
like to know what it is the only thing

2487
01:56:37,169 --> 01:56:34,870
is that and I mean I met Tom DeLonge and

2488
01:56:38,990 --> 01:56:37,179
I have no reason to think anything bad

2489
01:56:42,330 --> 01:56:39,000
of him

2490
01:56:44,490 --> 01:56:42,340
but you know he's had this before he

2491
01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:44,500
said a number of times before about

2492
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:46,090
having a major announcement major

2493
01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:48,250
disclosure major this and you know

2494
01:56:54,270 --> 01:56:51,040
frankly nothing has happened nothing so

2495
01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:54,280
my attitude is I'll see it when I see it

2496
01:57:00,300 --> 01:56:56,080
I'll believe it when it's out there and

2497
01:57:03,060 --> 01:57:00,310
until then I you know our field is so

2498
01:57:04,860 --> 01:57:03,070
filled with anticipation and it's like

2499
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:04,870
it's almost like it's a marketing

2500
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:07,690
strategy like like everyone's being

2501
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:10,690
encouraged to find the next big thing to

2502
01:57:13,830 --> 01:57:12,010
throw out to the public because we've

2503
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:13,840
got to we got to keep keep it stirring

2504
01:57:20,430 --> 01:57:19,090
the pot and I have I resist this and let

2505
01:57:22,260 --> 01:57:20,440
me you know let me just say I'm gonna

2506
01:57:23,399 --> 01:57:22,270
take a minute here and mentioned you I

2507
01:57:25,169 --> 01:57:23,409
don't think you know this and I haven't

2508
01:57:27,450 --> 01:57:25,179
said this to many people I myself I'm in

2509
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:27,460
the process of doing a redesign of my

2510
01:57:33,149 --> 01:57:30,010
entire presence in the UFO community how

2511
01:57:35,189 --> 01:57:33,159
so I have I'm developing a tremendous

2512
01:57:36,990 --> 01:57:35,199
amount of new and fresh content for a

2513
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:37,000
revamp website and that's going to be

2514
01:57:42,750 --> 01:57:38,650
available

2515
01:57:44,250 --> 01:57:42,760
I expect before the year is out there's

2516
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:44,260
gonna be a lot of new stuff that I'm

2517
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:47,530
I'll be offering so I myself am I'm very

2518
01:57:54,570 --> 01:57:52,090
aware of providing of the need to

2519
01:57:57,090 --> 01:57:54,580
provide information to a market that

2520
01:58:00,330 --> 01:57:57,100
wants that is hungry for information on

2521
01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:00,340
UFOs about what I don't want to do I

2522
01:58:04,649 --> 01:58:02,050
don't like getting into the habit of

2523
01:58:05,970 --> 01:58:04,659
like keeping people dangling like oh

2524
01:58:08,070 --> 01:58:05,980
here's here's a little treat I'm gonna

2525
01:58:09,479 --> 01:58:08,080
throw attitudes just wait just wait for

2526
01:58:10,970 --> 01:58:09,489
it this is gonna be the new the new

2527
01:58:12,950 --> 01:58:10,980
revelation right

2528
01:58:14,930 --> 01:58:12,960
I don't like what I see that happening

2529
01:58:17,810 --> 01:58:14,940
and it happens so much in this field and

2530
01:58:20,570 --> 01:58:17,820
I'm afraid that Tom DeLonge is doing it

2531
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:20,580
too and he better deliver if he's got

2532
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:23,010
some seriously good videos and deliver

2533
01:58:26,209 --> 01:58:24,330
the damn videos and let us look at it

2534
01:58:28,220 --> 01:58:26,219
and we can decide what's what's

2535
01:58:32,330 --> 01:58:28,230
important about it and speaking that

2536
01:58:33,740 --> 01:58:32,340
Richards gonna reveal this next week I'm

2537
01:58:36,350 --> 01:58:33,750
just kidding right you're just kidding

2538
01:58:38,810 --> 01:58:36,360
just kidding our guest tonight Richard

2539
01:58:40,820 --> 01:58:38,820
Dolan happy Thanksgiving everybody more

2540
01:58:41,630 --> 01:58:40,830
with Richard right after this short

2541
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break

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[Music]

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02:03:08,709 --> 02:03:07,330
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

2630
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:08,719
your host Jimmy Church I'm the game

2631
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:11,530
changer networking kg are a the planets

2632
02:03:18,070 --> 02:03:14,890
our guest tonight is Richard Dolan and

2633
02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:18,080
now I'm gonna have some fun with Richard

2634
02:03:24,430 --> 02:03:21,650
here okay now on this last segment

2635
02:03:26,020 --> 02:03:24,440
Richard I'm gonna go to an in a couple

2636
02:03:29,410 --> 02:03:26,030
of zones where you and I have never gone

2637
02:03:31,660 --> 02:03:29,420
before so hey yeah don't freak out let's

2638
02:03:33,490 --> 02:03:31,670
have some fun but so far I have to tell

2639
02:03:35,620 --> 02:03:33,500
you I'm enjoying tonight yeah we always

2640
02:03:40,690 --> 02:03:35,630
have great conversations that's the best

2641
02:03:42,190 --> 02:03:40,700
thing one day I will tape secretly one

2642
02:03:46,479 --> 02:03:42,200
of our conversations that we have

2643
02:03:51,610 --> 02:03:46,489
privately and run that on the air so so

2644
02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:51,620
listen is this what if let's speculate

2645
02:03:58,330 --> 02:03:54,410
in an alternate you know in in supermans

2646
02:04:02,110 --> 02:03:58,340
bizarro world right Hillary gets elected

2647
02:04:05,860 --> 02:04:02,120
and discloses the UFO just goes full-on

2648
02:04:10,479 --> 02:04:05,870
is she does she get a pass card on being

2649
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:10,489
the the evil witch dude sure yeah I mean

2650
02:04:14,770 --> 02:04:12,530
well she would get she has to get props

2651
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:14,780
any any president who would do that

2652
02:04:20,979 --> 02:04:18,410
would definitely be doing a service for

2653
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:20,989
humankind now the only thing that we'd

2654
02:04:24,850 --> 02:04:22,730
have to keep in mind is you know what

2655
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:24,860
what is going on with the disclosure so

2656
02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:29,210
is it a disclosure with a purpose and

2657
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:32,170
the purpose is probably not going to be

2658
02:04:37,810 --> 02:04:35,530
a purely humanitarian philanthropic

2659
02:04:40,630 --> 02:04:37,820
purpose so we've got to find out what's

2660
02:04:41,979 --> 02:04:40,640
going on and think about you know Tom

2661
02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:41,989
DeLonge we were just talking about him

2662
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:45,130
and his book secret machines and the the

2663
02:04:51,700 --> 02:04:49,370
argument essentially that you know that

2664
02:04:53,620 --> 02:04:51,710
the secrecy is actually being kept by

2665
02:04:55,630 --> 02:04:53,630
really good people who have got our best

2666
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:55,640
interests in mind they're protecting us

2667
02:05:01,180 --> 02:04:56,690
from something that's really dangerous

2668
02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:01,190
and scary and and that's a conclusion

2669
02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:03,170
that I don't agree with I think that I

2670
02:05:07,180 --> 02:05:05,330
strongly disagree with it looking at the

2671
02:05:10,750 --> 02:05:07,190
history of secrecy I think I'm in a good

2672
02:05:13,510 --> 02:05:10,760
position to disagree here the secrecy

2673
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:13,520
has taken on a life of its own that is

2674
02:05:18,370 --> 02:05:16,370
positively evil and that has gone

2675
02:05:21,610 --> 02:05:18,380
against the very fiber of what

2676
02:05:24,340 --> 02:05:21,620
means to be a free citizen of a republic

2677
02:05:25,899 --> 02:05:24,350
it's betrayed what we are and and

2678
02:05:27,580 --> 02:05:25,909
there's a lot of people have gained a

2679
02:05:32,680 --> 02:05:27,590
lot of power and profit as a result of

2680
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:32,690
it so I guess what I'm saying is my fear

2681
02:05:38,890 --> 02:05:36,650
would be that any politician would make

2682
02:05:41,140 --> 02:05:38,900
a disclosure and then spin it in such a

2683
02:05:42,700 --> 02:05:41,150
way as to say oh well we're doing this

2684
02:05:48,850 --> 02:05:42,710
for your protection we did this for your

2685
02:05:51,340 --> 02:05:48,860
protection and hope that's okay and you

2686
02:05:53,050 --> 02:05:51,350
know and then of course how much are

2687
02:05:54,040 --> 02:05:53,060
they going to be disclosing and how much

2688
02:05:56,560 --> 02:05:54,050
are they really going to be willing to

2689
02:05:58,270 --> 02:05:56,570
talk about the fact that we have any

2690
02:06:00,390 --> 02:05:58,280
disclosure at all is going to be a good

2691
02:06:03,820 --> 02:06:00,400
thing because that gets the conversation

2692
02:06:05,590 --> 02:06:03,830
moving so I I do want to make make it

2693
02:06:09,220 --> 02:06:05,600
clear that I would I would be happy

2694
02:06:10,629 --> 02:06:09,230
about that but very few I can't imagine

2695
02:06:12,100 --> 02:06:10,639
a disclosure that's going to be a

2696
02:06:13,990 --> 02:06:12,110
completely truthful one I think it's

2697
02:06:16,360 --> 02:06:14,000
going to be filled with deception and

2698
02:06:19,209 --> 02:06:16,370
lies and spin just like any other

2699
02:06:23,439 --> 02:06:19,219
political act you're in Boulder Colorado

2700
02:06:26,740 --> 02:06:23,449
you're taping the next season of your

2701
02:06:30,070 --> 02:06:26,750
series you're in Boulder flying saucer

2702
02:06:34,030 --> 02:06:30,080
lands alien steps off he comes up to you

2703
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:34,040
and says take me to a smoke shop do you

2704
02:06:51,610 --> 02:06:45,520
extraterrestrial alien says to you let's

2705
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:51,620
smoke weed you say yes any person's job

2706
02:06:58,870 --> 02:06:54,530
would be to smoke lots of guns with any

2707
02:07:00,939 --> 02:06:58,880
extraterrestrial that that asks see see

2708
02:07:02,890 --> 02:07:00,949
everybody see that's the real Richard

2709
02:07:05,189 --> 02:07:02,900
Dolan right there we're talking about

2710
02:07:07,479 --> 02:07:05,199
internet interstellar relations here

2711
02:07:09,490 --> 02:07:07,489
you've got it you gotta take one for the

2712
02:07:09,879 --> 02:07:09,500
team be your duty yeah yeah it would be

2713
02:07:14,620 --> 02:07:09,889
your duty

2714
02:07:19,810 --> 02:07:14,630
absolutely the flat earth the flat earth

2715
02:07:23,140 --> 02:07:19,820
Richard what is going on here why are so

2716
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:23,150
many buying into

2717
02:07:27,580 --> 02:07:26,210
Flat Earth theory and why hasn't it gone

2718
02:07:34,390 --> 02:07:27,590
away

2719
02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:34,400
oh my goodness yeah it's I I have I

2720
02:07:42,070 --> 02:07:36,650
don't I don't even know how to answer

2721
02:07:44,710 --> 02:07:42,080
that honestly it isn't to my mind it is

2722
02:07:46,210 --> 02:07:44,720
one of the most ludicrous ridiculous

2723
02:07:49,090 --> 02:07:46,220
things that I have ever heard

2724
02:07:52,090 --> 02:07:49,100
like really I heard and I've heard a lot

2725
02:07:55,600 --> 02:07:52,100
of out there things and I do have a very

2726
02:07:56,440 --> 02:07:55,610
open mind I like to think I don't

2727
02:07:57,820 --> 02:07:56,450
understand it

2728
02:07:59,200 --> 02:07:57,830
I don't understand why there are people

2729
02:08:00,730 --> 02:07:59,210
who actually are real flat-earthers but

2730
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:00,740
they are they're actually out there and

2731
02:08:04,150 --> 02:08:02,450
they've got their own theory about the

2732
02:08:07,780 --> 02:08:04,160
conspiracy of all the satellites and how

2733
02:08:13,030 --> 02:08:07,790
satellites are not accurately providing

2734
02:08:15,340 --> 02:08:13,040
information somehow this is absurd I

2735
02:08:18,430 --> 02:08:15,350
mean I don't know what to say

2736
02:08:20,950 --> 02:08:18,440
Reid mystery of Ferdinand Magellan how

2737
02:08:23,380 --> 02:08:20,960
he sailed around the world how how else

2738
02:08:27,460 --> 02:08:23,390
do we have telecommunications that can

2739
02:08:29,170 --> 02:08:27,470
function from New York to Beijing or New

2740
02:08:31,060 --> 02:08:29,180
York to Moscow or in New York to Sydney

2741
02:08:32,980 --> 02:08:31,070
Australia

2742
02:08:34,900 --> 02:08:32,990
these are predicated on very

2743
02:08:37,510 --> 02:08:34,910
sophisticated mathematics and physics

2744
02:08:40,300 --> 02:08:37,520
that would not work they're all

2745
02:08:41,890 --> 02:08:40,310
predicated on the idea of a spherical

2746
02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:41,900
earth that is roughly twenty five

2747
02:08:46,840 --> 02:08:43,490
thousand miles in diameter that has a

2748
02:08:48,460 --> 02:08:46,850
certain kind of electromagnetic casing

2749
02:08:51,940 --> 02:08:48,470
around it and all of the other things

2750
02:08:57,300 --> 02:08:51,950
they don't work any other way I don't

2751
02:09:00,340 --> 02:08:57,310
understand these people I how has it

2752
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:00,350
lasted this long I I don't understand I

2753
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:03,650
really thought Richard I swear and I

2754
02:09:08,140 --> 02:09:06,050
have been vocal about this I have posted

2755
02:09:12,070 --> 02:09:08,150
in social media enough about this that I

2756
02:09:13,660 --> 02:09:12,080
thought it was going to be passe and we

2757
02:09:17,740 --> 02:09:13,670
would be able to joke about it you know

2758
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:17,750
Flat Earth was so last Mandela that's

2759
02:09:22,270 --> 02:09:20,330
another one people get really worked up

2760
02:09:24,970 --> 02:09:22,280
over this idea and it's all based on a

2761
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:24,980
complete misunderstanding of Nelson

2762
02:09:28,450 --> 02:09:26,330
Mandela to begin with that's the funny

2763
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:28,460
part of it wai-wait Mandela effect is

2764
02:09:39,250 --> 02:09:36,410
real no no Richard so the Mandela effect

2765
02:09:41,500 --> 02:09:39,260
is based on an idea first of all it's

2766
02:09:43,390 --> 02:09:41,510
this woman who knows no history clearly

2767
02:09:45,160 --> 02:09:43,400
right right believe that she had heard

2768
02:09:48,160 --> 02:09:45,170
oh my god I heard Nelson Mandela had

2769
02:09:51,700 --> 02:09:48,170
died in prison wrong I'm sure I

2770
02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:51,710
guarantee you I would bet any amount of

2771
02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:53,330
money she was thinking of Steven Biko

2772
02:09:58,060 --> 02:09:55,130
who by the way they wrote a song about

2773
02:10:01,390 --> 02:09:58,070
in Peter Gabriel great song Steven Biko

2774
02:10:03,370 --> 02:10:01,400
was a South African activist who was

2775
02:10:06,100 --> 02:10:03,380
beaten to death in a prison cell in the

2776
02:10:08,980 --> 02:10:06,110
late 1970s and he did get some attention

2777
02:10:11,500 --> 02:10:08,990
and it was a very famous case so this

2778
02:10:12,910 --> 02:10:11,510
lady like everyone else who doesn't know

2779
02:10:15,310 --> 02:10:12,920
any history or any politics or any

2780
02:10:17,020 --> 02:10:15,320
anything has this idea that oh yeah but

2781
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:17,030
I heard Nelson Mandela died in prison no

2782
02:10:22,240 --> 02:10:19,010
that was Biko so out of that

2783
02:10:26,170 --> 02:10:22,250
completeness misapprehension right she

2784
02:10:29,110 --> 02:10:26,180
creates this phony of phenomena which

2785
02:10:31,300 --> 02:10:29,120
the only examples I mean I have listened

2786
02:10:33,550 --> 02:10:31,310
I wasted hours of my life listening to

2787
02:10:37,090 --> 02:10:33,560
Mandela effect claims on YouTube right

2788
02:10:40,660 --> 02:10:37,100
all the examples are for movies some are

2789
02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:40,670
some are some are 90% of them I know I

2790
02:10:45,550 --> 02:10:42,530
know well that's where we're going then

2791
02:10:47,500 --> 02:10:45,560
give it up I know okay I know but it

2792
02:10:52,050 --> 02:10:47,510
just messes with my head there are a

2793
02:10:56,770 --> 02:10:52,060
couple of things that I have memories of

2794
02:10:58,750 --> 02:10:56,780
that are incorrect today and it bothers

2795
02:11:00,910 --> 02:10:58,760
me and I'll give you an example let me

2796
02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:00,920
let me quiz you this has nothing to do

2797
02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:02,450
with the movies forget about the sort of

2798
02:11:09,490 --> 02:11:04,610
Three's Company no yeah right all right

2799
02:11:12,580 --> 02:11:09,500
no let's not go there but you went to

2800
02:11:16,750 --> 02:11:12,590
college so that means you enjoyed ramen

2801
02:11:18,670 --> 02:11:16,760
noodles correct right actually I did not

2802
02:11:20,830 --> 02:11:18,680
do ramen noodles when I was in college

2803
02:11:23,830 --> 02:11:20,840
okay well now now I'm not buying you're

2804
02:11:27,820 --> 02:11:23,840
saying if a little later in graduate but

2805
02:11:31,060 --> 02:11:27,830
you remember cup of noodles right in the

2806
02:11:32,860 --> 02:11:31,070
styrofoam cup I remember there is a cup

2807
02:11:35,530 --> 02:11:32,870
of noodles right right right cup of

2808
02:11:38,230 --> 02:11:35,540
noodles it's not oh yeah it's not called

2809
02:11:42,070 --> 02:11:38,240
cup of noodles okay what is it called

2810
02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:42,080
it's called cup noodles there was never

2811
02:11:53,830 --> 02:11:48,290
an oh there and I don't know I know I

2812
02:11:54,940 --> 02:11:53,840
know but I'm just saying I remember cup

2813
02:11:57,580 --> 02:11:54,950
Oh

2814
02:12:00,100 --> 02:11:57,590
noodles and I ate the crap out of those

2815
02:12:02,980 --> 02:12:00,110
when I was a kid right and to find out

2816
02:12:05,860 --> 02:12:02,990
that it's cup noodles cup it doesn't

2817
02:12:08,530 --> 02:12:05,870
even roll off the tongue correctly it

2818
02:12:10,840 --> 02:12:08,540
just messes with my I agree

2819
02:12:12,280 --> 02:12:10,850
it messes with my head I don't I don't

2820
02:12:14,290 --> 02:12:12,290
know where that's right my old

2821
02:12:19,180 --> 02:12:14,300
typewriter and write a letter to the

2822
02:12:21,850 --> 02:12:19,190
president of so late

2823
02:12:24,070 --> 02:12:21,860
yeah yeah it's things like that but you

2824
02:12:25,360 --> 02:12:24,080
know I go and I look at this Mandela

2825
02:12:27,280 --> 02:12:25,370
effect thing man

2826
02:12:30,640 --> 02:12:27,290
I'll give you another example something

2827
02:12:35,500 --> 02:12:30,650
else that just messes with me

2828
02:12:38,560 --> 02:12:35,510
the original Shuttle crash right that

2829
02:12:42,190 --> 02:12:38,570
original crash Challenger Challenger yes

2830
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:42,200
in in what year do you remember where

2831
02:12:50,470 --> 02:12:45,170
you were when that happened I do

2832
02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:50,480
actually yes okay so 2006 what year was

2833
02:12:56,770 --> 02:12:53,410
it it's in February February 1986

2834
02:13:03,340 --> 02:12:56,780
February 19 886 you feel confident about

2835
02:13:06,220 --> 02:13:03,350
that you feel pretty strong uh yes I do

2836
02:13:08,130 --> 02:13:06,230
really when when when are you telling me

2837
02:13:13,250 --> 02:13:08,140
it happened yeah what if I said it was

2838
02:13:19,020 --> 02:13:16,350
know that that is not the case it didn't

2839
02:13:20,700 --> 02:13:19,030
happen in January 85 really why do you

2840
02:13:24,900 --> 02:13:20,710
think it happened in January 85 well

2841
02:13:26,430 --> 02:13:24,910
because my band that I had back then

2842
02:13:29,490 --> 02:13:26,440
right

2843
02:13:33,950 --> 02:13:29,500
had a singer in it that I used to drive

2844
02:13:37,950 --> 02:13:33,960
to work and and he was only in the band

2845
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:37,960
it was January 1986 he was in the band

2846
02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:41,530
in in 1985 for three months and I

2847
02:13:45,060 --> 02:13:43,360
remembered I had to drive him to work

2848
02:13:47,970 --> 02:13:45,070
because he didn't have a car and I

2849
02:13:49,680 --> 02:13:47,980
needed him to pay his rent and so I come

2850
02:13:51,870 --> 02:13:49,690
back after dropping him off and I'm

2851
02:13:54,540 --> 02:13:51,880
watching television you know 8 o'clock

2852
02:13:57,900 --> 02:13:54,550
in the morning and the accident happened

2853
02:13:59,730 --> 02:13:57,910
so I this is one of my memories all

2854
02:14:02,310 --> 02:13:59,740
right so you're telling me you remember

2855
02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:02,320
this happening in January 85 when I was

2856
02:14:08,250 --> 02:14:04,690
told it was 1986 and I'm going back

2857
02:14:11,070 --> 02:14:08,260
thinking about my life in 1986 now we're

2858
02:14:14,820 --> 02:14:11,080
gonna tell you I remember when the

2859
02:14:16,980 --> 02:14:14,830
Challenger happened in January of 85 I

2860
02:14:21,150 --> 02:14:16,990
know where I was living I was actually I

2861
02:14:23,430 --> 02:14:21,160
just graduated from Alfred University in

2862
02:14:27,540 --> 02:14:23,440
upstate New York the month before that

2863
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:27,550
and I was living at home on Long Island

2864
02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:31,210
with my mother in January 1985 when the

2865
02:14:36,780 --> 02:14:33,760
Challenger blew up a little over a year

2866
02:14:39,570 --> 02:14:36,790
later in February of 86 I was in

2867
02:14:40,980 --> 02:14:39,580
Rochester New York and I know exactly

2868
02:14:43,620 --> 02:14:40,990
where I was living and I remembered

2869
02:14:46,590 --> 02:14:43,630
seeing the I didn't see it live I caught

2870
02:14:50,070 --> 02:14:46,600
it like minutes later on the news but I

2871
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:50,080
remembered that day absolutely and I was

2872
02:14:52,860 --> 02:14:51,370
not on Long Island I was in Rochester

2873
02:14:57,060 --> 02:14:52,870
which is where I was supposed to be in

2874
02:15:00,540 --> 02:14:57,070
1986 and so I I have had no no other

2875
02:15:01,950 --> 02:15:00,550
memory yeah and I don't know how you can

2876
02:15:04,470 --> 02:15:01,960
think that it was January I think you

2877
02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:04,480
got your dates wrong yeah it's it's

2878
02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:07,360
messing with me because you need

2879
02:15:13,170 --> 02:15:10,810
seriously go back over your personal

2880
02:15:15,900 --> 02:15:13,180
records and your photographs and all of

2881
02:15:19,020 --> 02:15:15,910
the other things and really put yourself

2882
02:15:20,160 --> 02:15:19,030
back into that time and I believe you're

2883
02:15:24,450 --> 02:15:20,170
gonna have this moment you're gonna say

2884
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:24,460
oh damn it really was 1986 yeah you know

2885
02:15:30,850 --> 02:15:25,370
and it was

2886
02:15:33,820 --> 02:15:30,860
it was long enough ago that maybe I've

2887
02:15:36,370 --> 02:15:33,830
just you know remembered this wrong over

2888
02:15:39,250 --> 02:15:36,380
the years so that now it is you know

2889
02:15:41,800 --> 02:15:39,260
it's embedded and I can't get the wrong

2890
02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:41,810
memory out you know I can't oh you know

2891
02:15:46,540 --> 02:15:43,970
overwrite those sectors of the hard

2892
02:15:50,170 --> 02:15:46,550
drive but it's interesting that you

2893
02:15:52,030 --> 02:15:50,180
think I mean our memories aren't

2894
02:15:56,140 --> 02:15:52,040
infallible no that's the thing about

2895
02:15:59,530 --> 02:15:56,150
them and we don't always remember things

2896
02:16:02,440 --> 02:15:59,540
the way that we do with their way that

2897
02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:02,450
we think we we do and I suspect this

2898
02:16:06,910 --> 02:16:03,530
what happened I think a lot of this

2899
02:16:10,480 --> 02:16:06,920
Mandela effect is simply a case of

2900
02:16:13,660 --> 02:16:10,490
people you know miss remembering things

2901
02:16:15,850 --> 02:16:13,670
or not knowing their history and and

2902
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:15,860
then convincing themselves that that

2903
02:16:21,010 --> 02:16:17,810
somehow they've slipped into an

2904
02:16:23,830 --> 02:16:21,020
alternate reality and I just don't

2905
02:16:27,010 --> 02:16:23,840
believe it and when we when we talk you

2906
02:16:31,180 --> 02:16:27,020
don't think that it is possible are you

2907
02:16:32,890 --> 02:16:31,190
are you dismissing that the I'm in

2908
02:16:35,800 --> 02:16:32,900
parallel worlds and the multi world

2909
02:16:39,460 --> 02:16:35,810
theory that that part is that that is

2910
02:16:42,700 --> 02:16:39,470
definitely a real situation quantum

2911
02:16:49,270 --> 02:16:42,710
theory is definitely a real situation it

2912
02:16:51,250 --> 02:16:49,280
is a speculated reality by many many

2913
02:16:53,530 --> 02:16:51,260
leading physicists and it could be true

2914
02:16:56,740 --> 02:16:53,540
that there we live in a multiverse multi

2915
02:16:59,170 --> 02:16:56,750
universes we don't know that you know we

2916
02:17:02,680 --> 02:16:59,180
again I I just feel like this is another

2917
02:17:04,720 --> 02:17:02,690
case of we take things as gospel we take

2918
02:17:06,340 --> 02:17:04,730
like these really cool ideas that

2919
02:17:07,510 --> 02:17:06,350
circulate for a long enough period of

2920
02:17:09,130 --> 02:17:07,520
time and then we just say oh well it's

2921
02:17:11,110 --> 02:17:09,140
obviously the case and we don't know

2922
02:17:12,910 --> 02:17:11,120
that it's obviously the case it could be

2923
02:17:15,340 --> 02:17:12,920
the case I just watch the whole series

2924
02:17:16,990 --> 02:17:15,350
of Fringe which is awesome by the way

2925
02:17:18,970 --> 02:17:17,000
Marvin they're dealing with alternate

2926
02:17:22,390 --> 02:17:18,980
universes and it's it was super cool and

2927
02:17:26,640 --> 02:17:22,400
maybe that's the case and and and I'll

2928
02:17:29,920 --> 02:17:26,650
go further I do believe that there are

2929
02:17:31,660 --> 02:17:29,930
beings that can phase into and phase out

2930
02:17:34,390 --> 02:17:31,670
of our let's call them our reality now

2931
02:17:37,600 --> 02:17:34,400
where where are they when they're not

2932
02:17:38,740 --> 02:17:37,610
here is that another dimension well okay

2933
02:17:39,970 --> 02:17:38,750
sure I don't

2934
02:17:42,190 --> 02:17:39,980
know how to understand what another

2935
02:17:43,690 --> 02:17:42,200
dimension is and maybe most people can't

2936
02:17:47,290 --> 02:17:43,700
either but let's say that there's other

2937
02:17:48,790 --> 02:17:47,300
dimensions out there so I'm not saying

2938
02:17:53,379 --> 02:17:48,800
it's not possible and I'm not saying

2939
02:17:55,660 --> 02:17:53,389
that a Mandela effects is impossible off

2940
02:17:58,270 --> 02:17:55,670
the top of my head I'm just saying dude

2941
02:17:59,790 --> 02:17:58,280
I have spent way too much time and too

2942
02:18:02,410 --> 02:17:59,800
much in my life that I'll never get back

2943
02:18:05,950 --> 02:18:02,420
listening to the most dumbass Mandela

2944
02:18:08,680 --> 02:18:05,960
effect explanation I can imagine and

2945
02:18:11,520 --> 02:18:08,690
like just give it up and find something

2946
02:18:17,980 --> 02:18:11,530
else I know more interesting I know

2947
02:18:21,250 --> 02:18:17,990
sorry yeah hey hey I know right you just

2948
02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:21,260
never know and when we talk about the

2949
02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:23,530
possibility of interdimensional

2950
02:18:29,020 --> 02:18:26,330
interactions with et or crafts and the

2951
02:18:31,810 --> 02:18:29,030
possibility of things phasing in and out

2952
02:18:34,030 --> 02:18:31,820
of our vision what I say phasing you

2953
02:18:36,759 --> 02:18:34,040
know coming into our frequency so we can

2954
02:18:39,070 --> 02:18:36,769
see it for a second and then it and then

2955
02:18:41,350 --> 02:18:39,080
it changes its frequency and it's gone

2956
02:18:43,959 --> 02:18:41,360
it's still there we just don't see it

2957
02:18:47,259 --> 02:18:43,969
there's probably so many things around

2958
02:18:49,930 --> 02:18:47,269
us right now that are walking in an in

2959
02:18:51,759 --> 02:18:49,940
our right now next to you in the room

2960
02:18:52,810 --> 02:18:51,769
that you are in right now there could be

2961
02:18:54,430 --> 02:18:52,820
something right there

2962
02:18:57,400 --> 02:18:54,440
you just can't see it it's on another

2963
02:19:00,790 --> 02:18:57,410
frequent there there are literally two

2964
02:19:03,009 --> 02:19:00,800
million inputs into our sensory

2965
02:19:05,650 --> 02:19:03,019
perception at this very moment every

2966
02:19:08,169 --> 02:19:05,660
moment if two million sensory inputs of

2967
02:19:10,209 --> 02:19:08,179
which your brain can only make sense

2968
02:19:12,580 --> 02:19:10,219
that I think forty thousand which is

2969
02:19:13,930 --> 02:19:12,590
actually a lot so but that means like 90

2970
02:19:15,610 --> 02:19:13,940
you at ninety-eight percent or whatever

2971
02:19:17,770 --> 02:19:15,620
it is of all the stuff that's around us

2972
02:19:20,350 --> 02:19:17,780
our brains ignore because we have to

2973
02:19:22,120 --> 02:19:20,360
because we would we would go insane over

2974
02:19:23,950 --> 02:19:22,130
the life we were to deal with all of it

2975
02:19:27,400 --> 02:19:23,960
we couldn't handle it so we have to so

2976
02:19:29,620 --> 02:19:27,410
by our very nature we are restricting

2977
02:19:31,150 --> 02:19:29,630
reality to an incredible extent when you

2978
02:19:33,759 --> 02:19:31,160
think about it in that sense we're

2979
02:19:35,110 --> 02:19:33,769
really very severely filtering realities

2980
02:19:37,509 --> 02:19:35,120
so there's a lot going on around us

2981
02:19:40,570 --> 02:19:37,519
without a doubt and think I often like

2982
02:19:42,610 --> 02:19:40,580
to think of like fish in a pond and you

2983
02:19:44,049 --> 02:19:42,620
know efficient a pond they know they

2984
02:19:47,110 --> 02:19:44,059
don't even know that they're in water

2985
02:19:48,549 --> 02:19:47,120
much less that there's air outside of

2986
02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:48,559
the water or that there's land or that

2987
02:19:52,180 --> 02:19:51,530
there's stars in the sky and and because

2988
02:19:54,280 --> 02:19:52,190
they're fish

2989
02:19:55,720 --> 02:19:54,290
and someone goes into that pond and they

2990
02:19:57,881 --> 02:19:55,730
can see the little fish and the fish

2991
02:19:59,950 --> 02:19:57,891
alike I don't even know what that is but

2992
02:20:01,990 --> 02:19:59,960
that's like us we're fish in our pond we

2993
02:20:04,990 --> 02:20:02,000
have our on our pond is our space-time

2994
02:20:06,761 --> 02:20:05,000
reality and that's that's what we're

2995
02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:06,771
used to but what if there are entities

2996
02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:09,290
beings that just like we can go into a

2997
02:20:13,390 --> 02:20:11,930
fish pond they can come into our little

2998
02:20:16,150 --> 02:20:13,400
fish ponds that join little space-time

2999
02:20:18,730 --> 02:20:16,160
and then leave it so maybe because we're

3000
02:20:19,960 --> 02:20:18,740
a little more aware than little fish we

3001
02:20:22,900 --> 02:20:19,970
can perceive that there's someone

3002
02:20:24,700 --> 02:20:22,910
entering our reality but maybe we can't

3003
02:20:26,710 --> 02:20:24,710
really understand what they're doing and

3004
02:20:28,631 --> 02:20:26,720
then they just leave our reality because

3005
02:20:30,910 --> 02:20:28,641
they've got mastery over space and time

3006
02:20:32,470 --> 02:20:30,920
in a way that we don't I could easily

3007
02:20:36,841 --> 02:20:32,480
see that being the case in fact I

3008
02:20:39,341 --> 02:20:36,851
believe that is the case so so as far as

3009
02:20:41,080 --> 02:20:39,351
well I'll give you an example of that

3010
02:20:45,551 --> 02:20:41,090
and for the audience

3011
02:20:48,460 --> 02:20:45,561
Richard and I we were having a party in

3012
02:20:51,761 --> 02:20:48,470
in Joshua Tree this is a - two years ago

3013
02:20:54,190 --> 02:20:51,771
and we were talking about night vision

3014
02:20:57,280 --> 02:20:54,200
and seeing something in the sky and we

3015
02:21:00,250 --> 02:20:57,290
had Mike Berra was there being you know

3016
02:21:03,730 --> 02:21:00,260
the bump on the log and and whatever and

3017
02:21:06,881 --> 02:21:03,740
so we were like okay wouldn't it be cool

3018
02:21:08,560 --> 02:21:06,891
if something just appeared and so if

3019
02:21:09,940 --> 02:21:08,570
this is for the audience Richard and I

3020
02:21:13,120 --> 02:21:09,950
and and Bera

3021
02:21:15,400 --> 02:21:13,130
walk out into this little parking lot

3022
02:21:19,020 --> 02:21:15,410
area in front of the party we look up in

3023
02:21:22,960 --> 02:21:19,030
the sky and at that moment as if on cue

3024
02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:22,970
right Richard on kids right above us

3025
02:21:29,530 --> 02:21:26,410
this thing lights up and starts moving

3026
02:21:31,290 --> 02:21:29,540
to our right and it was a very high in

3027
02:21:33,790 --> 02:21:31,300
the sky either it wasn't like it was

3028
02:21:35,470 --> 02:21:33,800
satellite high you know it's a few

3029
02:21:37,780 --> 02:21:35,480
thousand feet in the air maybe I don't

3030
02:21:40,990 --> 02:21:37,790
know a mile up in the sky but at lights

3031
02:21:44,980 --> 02:21:41,000
I and and takes off in a straight line

3032
02:21:47,710 --> 02:21:44,990
at a pretty good clip too as well and it

3033
02:21:49,390 --> 02:21:47,720
wasn't a very unusual object I have to

3034
02:21:52,480 --> 02:21:49,400
agree with you completely it wasn't like

3035
02:21:53,890 --> 02:21:52,490
an ordinary aircraft in my opinion as

3036
02:21:56,860 --> 02:21:53,900
well as in yours it was really

3037
02:21:59,290 --> 02:21:56,870
interesting again could that be some

3038
02:22:01,900 --> 02:21:59,300
type of interdimensional thing because

3039
02:22:04,060 --> 02:22:01,910
it wasn't there and then all of a sudden

3040
02:22:05,500 --> 02:22:04,070
the thing lights up and I know it sounds

3041
02:22:07,870 --> 02:22:05,510
crazy to the

3042
02:22:10,450 --> 02:22:07,880
hearing you and I talk about it in these

3043
02:22:13,689 --> 02:22:10,460
terms but I don't have any other way to

3044
02:22:17,800 --> 02:22:13,699
describe it except for how it happened

3045
02:22:20,260 --> 02:22:17,810
and and so this white ball I guess we

3046
02:22:21,580 --> 02:22:20,270
could call it that it lights up and it

3047
02:22:23,800 --> 02:22:21,590
takes off and we're watching you tonight

3048
02:22:25,450 --> 02:22:23,810
vision and you and I and Bera

3049
02:22:29,290 --> 02:22:25,460
we're all trying to figure out what we

3050
02:22:32,319 --> 02:22:29,300
were looking at now how do you how do

3051
02:22:34,439 --> 02:22:32,329
you rationalize that in your Richard

3052
02:22:38,050 --> 02:22:34,449
dull and pragmatic black and white

3053
02:22:39,370 --> 02:22:38,060
historian college professor mind well

3054
02:22:41,200 --> 02:22:39,380
I'm not I'm not really black and like

3055
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:41,210
there's a lot of gray area and a lot of

3056
02:22:47,319 --> 02:22:43,010
shades in the world that I live in to be

3057
02:22:49,179 --> 02:22:47,329
honest with you I listen i I think it's

3058
02:22:52,359 --> 02:22:49,189
entirely possible that these objects

3059
02:22:54,460 --> 02:22:52,369
react to our minds almost twenty years

3060
02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:54,470
ago at a UFO sighting I talked about it

3061
02:22:58,989 --> 02:22:56,210
many times with my son it was then three

3062
02:23:00,880 --> 02:22:58,999
years old in front of my house and I

3063
02:23:02,290 --> 02:23:00,890
believe then and I believe now that that

3064
02:23:04,510 --> 02:23:02,300
thing somehow got into my head

3065
02:23:05,800 --> 02:23:04,520
I believe it it seemed like it I

3066
02:23:08,559 --> 02:23:05,810
remembered watching this incredibly

3067
02:23:10,210 --> 02:23:08,569
bright object in the sky holding my

3068
02:23:12,099 --> 02:23:10,220
three-year-old son's hand in front of my

3069
02:23:14,080 --> 02:23:12,109
house thinking that's the brightest

3070
02:23:15,670 --> 02:23:14,090
thing I've ever seen and at first I

3071
02:23:17,769 --> 02:23:15,680
thought my conscious mind was thinking

3072
02:23:19,630 --> 02:23:17,779
was just a reflective aircraft but

3073
02:23:21,760 --> 02:23:19,640
really reflect him what could it be

3074
02:23:23,139 --> 02:23:21,770
and then this thought entered my mind

3075
02:23:24,670 --> 02:23:23,149
that's the only way I can put it it's

3076
02:23:28,029 --> 02:23:24,680
and that thought was don't look away

3077
02:23:30,399 --> 02:23:28,039
you'll never see this again and that

3078
02:23:32,170 --> 02:23:30,409
thought had no logic to it because there

3079
02:23:34,870 --> 02:23:32,180
is nowhere that that object could hide

3080
02:23:36,370 --> 02:23:34,880
it was a completely blue sky and even if

3081
02:23:38,590 --> 02:23:36,380
it lost its reflection it would still be

3082
02:23:40,239 --> 02:23:38,600
very visible to me but I had this idea

3083
02:23:42,099 --> 02:23:40,249
don't look away don't look away don't

3084
02:23:44,590 --> 02:23:42,109
look away I had to look away for a

3085
02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:44,600
second to talk to my son for one second

3086
02:23:49,929 --> 02:23:46,850
and when I turned back it was just gone

3087
02:23:51,609 --> 02:23:49,939
and I mean that's not nearly as

3088
02:23:53,559 --> 02:23:51,619
interesting a sighting as countless

3089
02:23:55,389 --> 02:23:53,569
others that people have but it's just

3090
02:23:58,469 --> 02:23:55,399
one of countless examples of these

3091
02:24:01,479 --> 02:23:58,479
objects somehow like seemingly

3092
02:24:04,960 --> 02:24:01,489
interacting with our mind I've studied

3093
02:24:08,529 --> 02:24:04,970
many many cases of UFO sightings where

3094
02:24:10,239 --> 02:24:08,539
people have a strong reason to argue

3095
02:24:11,859 --> 02:24:10,249
that these objects were into their head

3096
02:24:14,979 --> 02:24:11,869
somehow and there's like a telepathic

3097
02:24:16,599 --> 02:24:14,989
connection this is a real thing so did

3098
02:24:17,469 --> 02:24:16,609
it happen to us sure it could have

3099
02:24:18,680 --> 02:24:17,479
happened to us

3100
02:24:20,450 --> 02:24:18,690
and

3101
02:24:22,850 --> 02:24:20,460
I don't know how that's happened in

3102
02:24:25,131 --> 02:24:22,860
terms of our physics but it does seem

3103
02:24:28,761 --> 02:24:25,141
that it's totally possible I want to

3104
02:24:31,251 --> 02:24:28,771
thank you again for coming on tonight

3105
02:24:34,371 --> 02:24:31,261
and for hanging out with the Sun on a

3106
02:24:36,950 --> 02:24:34,381
week that is is busy for all of us and

3107
02:24:39,140 --> 02:24:36,960
it's Thanksgiving week when is the book

3108
02:24:45,081 --> 02:24:39,150
coming out let's let's address that

3109
02:24:47,871 --> 02:24:45,091
really quick false flag book I am pretty

3110
02:24:50,450 --> 02:24:47,881
certain we'll be out in the early half

3111
02:24:53,180 --> 02:24:50,460
of 2018 so I am working on it it's

3112
02:24:55,310 --> 02:24:53,190
looking good writing is I'm satisfied

3113
02:24:57,140 --> 02:24:55,320
with a lot of it there's good research

3114
02:24:58,610 --> 02:24:57,150
in there and I think people will find it

3115
02:25:02,091 --> 02:24:58,620
very interesting and this is a book I

3116
02:25:04,131 --> 02:25:02,101
should say that is the first ever real

3117
02:25:06,621 --> 02:25:04,141
history of false Flags as a phenomenon

3118
02:25:08,720 --> 02:25:06,631
and and in other words actions in which

3119
02:25:11,661 --> 02:25:08,730
governments or agencies do something

3120
02:25:13,461 --> 02:25:11,671
terrible I kill people or blow up things

3121
02:25:15,591 --> 02:25:13,471
and or worse and then blame it on other

3122
02:25:18,381 --> 02:25:15,601
groups for a political game that's a

3123
02:25:20,930 --> 02:25:18,391
false flag there's a lot of it and I'm

3124
02:25:22,700 --> 02:25:20,940
I'm doing a history of false Flags there

3125
02:25:25,011 --> 02:25:22,710
in analytical history that which

3126
02:25:27,140 --> 02:25:25,021
indicates how this phenomenon has really

3127
02:25:29,001 --> 02:25:27,150
changed and mutated it's like a mutating

3128
02:25:31,190 --> 02:25:29,011
virus in our own air and they today

3129
02:25:34,041 --> 02:25:31,200
they're evermore sophisticated so that's

3130
02:25:35,961 --> 02:25:34,051
the first half of 2018 I am doing the

3131
02:25:39,291 --> 02:25:35,971
website overhaul I'm about to provide

3132
02:25:43,371 --> 02:25:39,301
massive new content for for the public

3133
02:25:45,110 --> 02:25:43,381
and so stay tuned for that publishing

3134
02:25:46,791 --> 02:25:45,120
books on Richard all oppressed by some

3135
02:25:48,350 --> 02:25:46,801
other interesting authors Michael Elland

3136
02:25:50,180 --> 02:25:48,360
is about to do a sequel to the

3137
02:25:53,001 --> 02:25:50,190
messengers which is a fascinating book

3138
02:25:55,791 --> 02:25:53,011
all on owls and synchronicity a lot of

3139
02:25:58,220 --> 02:25:55,801
interest in that and I might bang out a

3140
02:26:00,820 --> 02:25:58,230
booklet or two in the next month or so

3141
02:26:03,890 --> 02:26:00,830
as well are you speaking

3142
02:26:06,140 --> 02:26:03,900
not until no I don't I'm not doing any

3143
02:26:08,541 --> 02:26:06,150
engagements for the rest of this year

3144
02:26:11,240 --> 02:26:08,551
I've done some local talks here in

3145
02:26:12,770 --> 02:26:11,250
Rochester but I'll be in Phoenix not for

3146
02:26:15,740 --> 02:26:12,780
the International Congress they seem to

3147
02:26:17,631 --> 02:26:15,750
want me every other year so I won't be

3148
02:26:21,110 --> 02:26:17,641
there but I will be speaking at Phoenix

3149
02:26:24,020 --> 02:26:21,120
MUFON and in Sedona and I think that's

3150
02:26:25,881 --> 02:26:24,030
in February of 2018 so I'll be there and

3151
02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:25,891
I got a whole bunch of things going on

3152
02:26:37,809 --> 02:26:35,349
conference in Arkansas and then Tracy

3153
02:26:40,179 --> 02:26:37,819
and I will be in Australia with

3154
02:26:43,719 --> 02:26:40,189
Katherine Austin Fitz one of the great

3155
02:26:45,279 --> 02:26:43,729
ladies in our era right in the row in

3156
02:26:47,199 --> 02:26:45,289
the middle of Australia and then I'll be

3157
02:26:50,529 --> 02:26:47,209
to contact in the desert later in the

3158
02:26:52,239 --> 02:26:50,539
year in Toronto and June and after that

3159
02:26:54,909 --> 02:26:52,249
I lose track there you go

3160
02:26:56,319 --> 02:26:54,919
thank you so much oh oh oh before I say

3161
02:27:00,819 --> 02:26:56,329
good night is there gonna be a season

3162
02:27:01,239 --> 02:27:00,829
two with false flags in Gaia I think

3163
02:27:02,529 --> 02:27:01,249
you're asking

3164
02:27:04,449 --> 02:27:02,539
I don't think so they haven't actually

3165
02:27:07,540 --> 02:27:04,459
asked for that the thing about the false

3166
02:27:09,699 --> 02:27:07,550
flag show and this is I mean it was kind

3167
02:27:11,319 --> 02:27:09,709
of an anomaly for Gaia they really don't

3168
02:27:15,969 --> 02:27:11,329
like to do political things in that show

3169
02:27:19,479 --> 02:27:15,979
was very political and I it's it's

3170
02:27:21,340 --> 02:27:19,489
certainly possible that I will do more

3171
02:27:22,599 --> 02:27:21,350
work with them I mean I've got a good

3172
02:27:25,359 --> 02:27:22,609
relationship with a lot of the folks

3173
02:27:26,920 --> 02:27:25,369
over there I'd be happy to consider

3174
02:27:29,139 --> 02:27:26,930
another project and there's a few that

3175
02:27:30,729 --> 02:27:29,149
we've talked about but I don't know

3176
02:27:33,279 --> 02:27:30,739
about a season two for false Flags

3177
02:27:34,929 --> 02:27:33,289
I will point out that that series was

3178
02:27:38,170 --> 02:27:34,939
the only one I think that they've ever

3179
02:27:40,420 --> 02:27:38,180
had that was actually scripted out like

3180
02:27:42,939 --> 02:27:40,430
really written out and then hosted by

3181
02:27:46,199 --> 02:27:42,949
that by the person who who wrote it I

3182
02:27:50,830 --> 02:27:46,209
took a lot of time I created an actual

3183
02:27:52,119 --> 02:27:50,840
like a story a historical creation I was

3184
02:27:55,540 --> 02:27:52,129
very happy with how that played out for

3185
02:27:59,409 --> 02:27:55,550
them yeah your thing that you did I did

3186
02:28:02,019 --> 02:27:59,419
see it your for the season premiere of

3187
02:28:04,409 --> 02:28:02,029
the secret space program series that

3188
02:28:07,239 --> 02:28:04,419
they were doing and the one on JFK

3189
02:28:09,309 --> 02:28:07,249
that was and that was really really

3190
02:28:11,199 --> 02:28:09,319
really really well done that was pretty

3191
02:28:13,119 --> 02:28:11,209
compelling that was oh thank you yeah

3192
02:28:15,460 --> 02:28:13,129
that was really well done well thank you

3193
02:28:17,050 --> 02:28:15,470
so much Richard and have a great to give

3194
02:28:20,199 --> 02:28:17,060
our best to Tracy and just have a great

3195
02:28:22,210 --> 02:28:20,209
safe and fun Thanksgiving thank you so

3196
02:28:24,159 --> 02:28:22,220
much thanks it was a pleasure Jimmy and

3197
02:28:26,019 --> 02:28:24,169
and hey to all of fate or nuts

3198
02:28:28,599 --> 02:28:26,029
there you go thank you so much Richard

3199
02:28:30,609 --> 02:28:28,609
now go get some sleep yes sir I'll talk

3200
02:28:32,979 --> 02:28:30,619
to you Richard Dolan everybody thank you

3201
02:28:36,369 --> 02:28:32,989
so much Richard great conversation

3202
02:28:38,439 --> 02:28:36,379
tonight and it's just so much fun when

3203
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he comes on fade to black

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now

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3209
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some big things Spade to black I'm you

3210
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talk about something serious for a

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extra weight wasn't haunting you and you

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the clocks and go back 10 or 15 years

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[Music]

3287
02:33:11,490 --> 02:33:08,820
all right welcome back fade to black

3288
02:33:14,849 --> 02:33:11,500
thank you Richard Dolan Richard bleep

3289
02:33:16,490 --> 02:33:14,859
and Dolan great conversation happy

3290
02:33:19,950 --> 02:33:16,500
Thanksgiving everybody there you go

3291
02:33:21,719 --> 02:33:19,960
that's a special events opened up the

3292
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phone lines three two three eight two

3293
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five five zero four five four three two

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3295
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I'm grabbing phone calls now okay and

3296
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you can follow me on twitter @ JT ready

3297
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Oh a very simple hashtag F 2 B is the

3298
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sandbox and phone lines are open let's

3299
02:33:48,120 --> 02:33:41,649
go hi you're live on fated block who's

3300
02:33:53,099 --> 02:33:48,130
calling you're live hello yeah you're

3301
02:33:57,269 --> 02:33:53,109
live right now oh did you tweet I think

3302
02:33:59,519 --> 02:33:57,279
you know about cup noodles oh yeah oh oh

3303
02:34:03,960 --> 02:33:59,529
I did see that yeah that they changed

3304
02:34:07,460 --> 02:34:03,970
the name in 1993 yeah I guess Richard

3305
02:34:10,650 --> 02:34:07,470
was right the Mandela effect isn't real

3306
02:34:12,979 --> 02:34:10,660
it's fun to contemplate it still messes

3307
02:34:15,479 --> 02:34:12,989
with my head man it really does

3308
02:34:17,219 --> 02:34:15,489
yeah I was just like you know I was like

3309
02:34:19,530 --> 02:34:17,229
man they were called a cup of noodles

3310
02:34:21,660 --> 02:34:19,540
and then I looked it up and I saw that

3311
02:34:23,760 --> 02:34:21,670
they change the name in 93 so I thought

3312
02:34:27,900 --> 02:34:23,770
I'd let you know you weren't crazy yeah

3313
02:34:30,750 --> 02:34:27,910
exactly and it's it's reassuring but

3314
02:34:34,650 --> 02:34:30,760
it's just I know what my mind was you

3315
02:34:39,300 --> 02:34:34,660
know that it was definitely cut Oh

3316
02:34:42,660 --> 02:34:39,310
noodles and and when I yeah so I'm not

3317
02:34:44,160 --> 02:34:42,670
crazy what's your name yep hey chip

3318
02:34:47,820 --> 02:34:44,170
thank you for the phone call my friend

3319
02:34:52,019 --> 02:34:47,830
and thank you for posting that yeah you

3320
02:34:56,010 --> 02:34:52,029
too yeah he's absolutely right he posted

3321
02:34:58,979 --> 02:34:56,020
they've changed the name in 1993 and

3322
02:35:02,670 --> 02:34:58,989
when I was looking at all of the the

3323
02:35:06,090 --> 02:35:02,680
images of cup noodles and and wait a

3324
02:35:07,500 --> 02:35:06,100
minute no I'm not crate I can't be let's

3325
02:35:10,800 --> 02:35:07,510
go back to the phones hi you're live on

3326
02:35:14,550 --> 02:35:10,810
fade to black who's calling hi Jimmy

3327
02:35:17,880 --> 02:35:14,560
this is Fallon this is who this is

3328
02:35:19,410 --> 02:35:17,890
Fallon Fallon how are you I'm good

3329
02:35:20,370 --> 02:35:19,420
thanks how are you what's on your mind

3330
02:35:23,309 --> 02:35:20,380
tonight

3331
02:35:26,670 --> 02:35:23,319
okay well I'm calling about my favorite

3332
02:35:28,260 --> 02:35:26,680
Mandela effect because I can't I can't

3333
02:35:30,030 --> 02:35:28,270
figure this one out and I think it's a

3334
02:35:33,570 --> 02:35:30,040
real one

3335
02:35:35,519 --> 02:35:33,580
our position in the galaxy like our

3336
02:35:37,889 --> 02:35:35,529
solar systems position in the galaxy

3337
02:35:39,990 --> 02:35:37,899
when I was a kid it was always taught to

3338
02:35:42,240 --> 02:35:40,000
us that we were on the outer edge like

3339
02:35:45,780 --> 02:35:42,250
in the backwater is what Carl Sagan

3340
02:35:47,760 --> 02:35:45,790
would say right and so we were in the

3341
02:35:49,859 --> 02:35:47,770
Sagittarius arm and there's even video

3342
02:35:51,750 --> 02:35:49,869
clips of Neil deGrasse Tyson talking

3343
02:35:53,880 --> 02:35:51,760
about being in the Sagittarius arm and

3344
02:35:56,849 --> 02:35:53,890
Carl Sagan talking about being in the

3345
02:35:59,609 --> 02:35:56,859
Sagittarius arm but now we're like much

3346
02:36:03,660 --> 02:35:59,619
more in the center we're in Orion spur

3347
02:36:05,490 --> 02:36:03,670
right and there's no record it's not

3348
02:36:07,740 --> 02:36:05,500
like they said okay well we update it

3349
02:36:10,500 --> 02:36:07,750
you know are our tools and recalibrated

3350
02:36:12,420 --> 02:36:10,510
and now with our new technology we're in

3351
02:36:14,370 --> 02:36:12,430
a-- we realize we're in a different

3352
02:36:15,689 --> 02:36:14,380
place and so we've updated that now it's

3353
02:36:19,170 --> 02:36:15,699
just as we've always been

3354
02:36:20,880 --> 02:36:19,180
in Orion's birth but there's video of

3355
02:36:23,219 --> 02:36:20,890
Carl Sagan talking about being on the

3356
02:36:25,740 --> 02:36:23,229
outer edge and the Sagittarius arm and

3357
02:36:28,080 --> 02:36:25,750
same for Neil deGrasse Tyson I don't

3358
02:36:31,010 --> 02:36:28,090
think goes to what most famous

3359
02:36:33,300 --> 02:36:31,020
astronomers would get it wrong woody and

3360
02:36:38,099 --> 02:36:33,310
what do you what do you make of that

3361
02:36:42,630 --> 02:36:38,109
though because I I remember the same

3362
02:36:44,040 --> 02:36:42,640
thing whenever they showed the Milky Way

3363
02:36:47,070 --> 02:36:44,050
which by the way how could they have a

3364
02:36:50,880 --> 02:36:47,080
photograph of the Milky Way Yeah right

3365
02:36:53,639 --> 02:36:50,890
I've always back yeah but anyway that we

3366
02:36:57,269 --> 02:36:53,649
were on the outside of it and now we are

3367
02:36:59,820 --> 02:36:57,279
apparently in in the middle of it or

3368
02:37:04,859 --> 02:36:59,830
closer to the mucky-muck of the middle

3369
02:37:07,290 --> 02:37:04,869
of of the Milky Way could they could

3370
02:37:09,389 --> 02:37:07,300
they have gotten it all wrong you know

3371
02:37:11,130 --> 02:37:09,399
are they joking kind of but they haven't

3372
02:37:12,450 --> 02:37:11,140
said that they haven't said that you

3373
02:37:15,660 --> 02:37:12,460
know we used to think that we were in

3374
02:37:17,729 --> 02:37:15,670
the Sagittarius arm but now we've like I

3375
02:37:19,920 --> 02:37:17,739
said recalibrated our you know with our

3376
02:37:21,630 --> 02:37:19,930
better technology now than we had 20

3377
02:37:23,820 --> 02:37:21,640
years ago and we figured out that we're

3378
02:37:28,260 --> 02:37:23,830
actually off by 200,000 light years or

3379
02:37:31,469 --> 02:37:28,270
whatever right right right well and what

3380
02:37:32,769 --> 02:37:31,479
do you think about Richards comments

3381
02:37:35,739 --> 02:37:32,779
because

3382
02:37:39,099 --> 02:37:35,749
Richard's a smart guy right and and and

3383
02:37:41,829 --> 02:37:39,109
he's he's not fooled but yet he is

3384
02:37:43,329 --> 02:37:41,839
open-minded as open-minded as anybody

3385
02:37:46,119 --> 02:37:43,339
can get but when we started to talk

3386
02:37:47,710 --> 02:37:46,129
about the Mandela effect he shut that

3387
02:37:50,409 --> 02:37:47,720
down pretty quick what do you think

3388
02:37:52,239 --> 02:37:50,419
about that yeah I really noticed that

3389
02:37:54,250 --> 02:37:52,249
with people that are even open minded

3390
02:37:56,139 --> 02:37:54,260
like my dad I asked him about how many

3391
02:37:58,859 --> 02:37:56,149
people were in Kennedy's car when he was

3392
02:38:02,130 --> 02:37:58,869
assassinated and my dad was a big JFK

3393
02:38:04,179 --> 02:38:02,140
assassination bus and he said four and

3394
02:38:06,340 --> 02:38:04,189
then when I showed him that there were

3395
02:38:08,349 --> 02:38:06,350
actually six people in I mean he quickly

3396
02:38:10,420 --> 02:38:08,359
changed and then said well I guess I was

3397
02:38:12,819 --> 02:38:10,430
wrong I guess it's always been six and

3398
02:38:15,099 --> 02:38:12,829
you know he was quite surprised to see

3399
02:38:17,199 --> 02:38:15,109
it but at the same time he he was forced

3400
02:38:19,809 --> 02:38:17,209
to change what he thought he knew really

3401
02:38:21,369 --> 02:38:19,819
quickly so yeah yeah yeah I think it

3402
02:38:23,439 --> 02:38:21,379
just questions people I think it has

3403
02:38:25,210 --> 02:38:23,449
changes people's perception so much that

3404
02:38:27,519 --> 02:38:25,220
they are forced to think that they were

3405
02:38:30,399 --> 02:38:27,529
wrong even though wow that's funny that

3406
02:38:33,729 --> 02:38:30,409
your dad was so easy to just go okay

3407
02:38:36,460 --> 02:38:33,739
well I guess I just I'm wrong me I I

3408
02:38:38,639 --> 02:38:36,470
stayed away for about four days after I

3409
02:38:41,260 --> 02:38:38,649
found out that there was six in the car

3410
02:38:42,760 --> 02:38:41,270
that happened on the air or two that

3411
02:38:44,319 --> 02:38:42,770
happened on the air somebody did that to

3412
02:38:46,979 --> 02:38:44,329
me live during the show

3413
02:38:49,840 --> 02:38:46,989
Fallon thank you for the phone call oh

3414
02:38:53,349 --> 02:38:49,850
yeah yeah you too thank you for the

3415
02:38:54,760 --> 02:38:53,359
phone call yeah that's it sir let's go

3416
02:38:57,180 --> 02:38:54,770
back to the phones hi you live I'm fade

3417
02:39:02,350 --> 02:38:57,190
to black who's calling

3418
02:39:08,790 --> 02:39:02,360
you're live hello yes you're live right

3419
02:39:11,590 --> 02:39:08,800
now hi my name is Jane hi Jane and I and

3420
02:39:14,051 --> 02:39:11,600
I'm a first-time caller to you that I've

3421
02:39:16,420 --> 02:39:14,061
been following you for a long time I was

3422
02:39:20,830 --> 02:39:16,430
concerned about John Podesta and I think

3423
02:39:24,130 --> 02:39:20,840
that he was using his disclosure to

3424
02:39:26,380 --> 02:39:24,140
possibly deflect from the other things

3425
02:39:31,330 --> 02:39:26,390
that were going on with him

3426
02:39:33,730 --> 02:39:31,340
what are you Wow okay and that's a

3427
02:39:36,670 --> 02:39:33,740
possibility sure and then you can take

3428
02:39:39,910 --> 02:39:36,680
the exact opposite of what you just said

3429
02:39:42,270 --> 02:39:39,920
and and this is what I mean if you take

3430
02:39:46,150 --> 02:39:42,280
the exact opposite of that that maybe

3431
02:39:49,330 --> 02:39:46,160
there were powers in play out there that

3432
02:39:52,810 --> 02:39:49,340
wanted to shut Podesta down because he

3433
02:39:55,330 --> 02:39:52,820
was so vocal about UFOs and they used

3434
02:39:58,060 --> 02:39:55,340
you know how do you bring down somebody

3435
02:40:00,940 --> 02:39:58,070
really really quick well you know child

3436
02:40:03,460 --> 02:40:00,950
porn pedophilia you know and and that's

3437
02:40:05,770 --> 02:40:03,470
it and it may be true that he is part of

3438
02:40:07,750 --> 02:40:05,780
this too as well but if you want to

3439
02:40:10,600 --> 02:40:07,760
silence somebody or discredit somebody

3440
02:40:14,440 --> 02:40:10,610
used certainly that's an effective way

3441
02:40:17,410 --> 02:40:14,450
of going about it don't you think well

3442
02:40:20,950 --> 02:40:17,420
absolutely I definitely think that he

3443
02:40:24,580 --> 02:40:20,960
has just things going on with him and

3444
02:40:26,430 --> 02:40:24,590
I'm very concerned about him still being

3445
02:40:28,960 --> 02:40:26,440
where he's at

3446
02:40:32,110 --> 02:40:28,970
it'll be exciting to see what goes on

3447
02:40:35,261 --> 02:40:32,120
for 2018 no doubt and I just wanted to

3448
02:40:38,770 --> 02:40:35,271
tell you that January of 1985 is what I

3449
02:40:44,100 --> 02:40:38,780
also remember if you're Mandela effect

3450
02:40:51,310 --> 02:40:47,470
it messes with me I mean I know what my

3451
02:40:55,810 --> 02:40:51,320
memory is on that so there you go very

3452
02:40:58,110 --> 02:40:55,820
well absolutely January of 1985 thank

3453
02:41:00,490 --> 02:40:58,120
you so much Jane for the phone call

3454
02:41:03,011 --> 02:41:00,500
thank you for taking my call yeah

3455
02:41:06,490 --> 02:41:03,021
bye-bye and and don't be a stranger we

3456
02:41:09,280 --> 02:41:06,500
love first-time callers here on fade to

3457
02:41:10,450 --> 02:41:09,290
black and now let's say let's stay on

3458
02:41:13,719 --> 02:41:10,460
this

3459
02:41:16,090 --> 02:41:13,729
the whole january '85

3460
02:41:19,300 --> 02:41:16,100
I just know what my memory is this isn't

3461
02:41:22,809 --> 02:41:19,310
anything that I'm I'm creating it's just

3462
02:41:28,570 --> 02:41:22,819
my memory that's all oh whoa whoa whoa

3463
02:41:29,229 --> 02:41:28,580
you're live right now hey Jimmy yes my

3464
02:41:32,590 --> 02:41:29,239
name is Johnny

3465
02:41:34,570 --> 02:41:32,600
um first-time caller I got a question I

3466
02:41:36,570 --> 02:41:34,580
was wondering if you're gonna be at some

3467
02:41:39,370 --> 02:41:36,580
point doing another special episode

3468
02:41:43,330 --> 02:41:39,380
focused around Bill Cooper at some point

3469
02:41:46,540 --> 02:41:43,340
oh man that's a that's a great question

3470
02:41:51,490 --> 02:41:46,550
I have the answer the short answer is

3471
02:41:53,139 --> 02:41:51,500
yes I have reached out do you know to

3472
02:41:59,439 --> 02:41:53,149
take it to the next level I want to get

3473
02:42:01,300 --> 02:41:59,449
on the show the the two producers that

3474
02:42:04,750 --> 02:42:01,310
were working with him and that were at

3475
02:42:06,280 --> 02:42:04,760
the scene and I had a conversation with

3476
02:42:07,840 --> 02:42:06,290
them and they they didn't want to come

3477
02:42:10,420 --> 02:42:07,850
on the show and talk about the day that

3478
02:42:12,130 --> 02:42:10,430
he was shot and I said of course we

3479
02:42:14,740 --> 02:42:12,140
don't we don't have to do that I want to

3480
02:42:17,830 --> 02:42:14,750
talk about other things and and the life

3481
02:42:20,620 --> 02:42:17,840
of be more interested in hearing more

3482
02:42:23,050 --> 02:42:20,630
about the stuff that he talked about

3483
02:42:25,420 --> 02:42:23,060
then you know the day that he died yeah

3484
02:42:28,080 --> 02:42:25,430
yeah absolutely John and and I

3485
02:42:30,490 --> 02:42:28,090
appreciate that and I'm glad that you're

3486
02:42:36,550 --> 02:42:30,500
bringing that up because I think it's

3487
02:42:41,920 --> 02:42:36,560
very important like a couple months ago

3488
02:42:47,170 --> 02:42:41,930
and know that it was like a year ago and

3489
02:42:49,059 --> 02:42:47,180
I just thank you so much John and I

3490
02:42:50,620 --> 02:42:49,069
don't know where I don't know where John

3491
02:42:53,860 --> 02:42:50,630
is right now but John if you're

3492
02:42:57,460 --> 02:42:53,870
listening to me it's I think John is at

3493
02:42:58,929 --> 02:42:57,470
a mall or something but let's stay on

3494
02:43:02,200 --> 02:42:58,939
the phones hi you're live on fade to

3495
02:43:05,080 --> 02:43:02,210
black who's calling hi this is Larry

3496
02:43:09,340 --> 02:43:05,090
from our oh hi Larry from Ohio how are

3497
02:43:11,320 --> 02:43:09,350
you man hey I'm good man I'm on vacation

3498
02:43:13,400 --> 02:43:11,330
this week and I get to actually listen

3499
02:43:15,460 --> 02:43:13,410
and watch your show yeah I'm

3500
02:43:18,591 --> 02:43:15,470
you know and there's nothing like

3501
02:43:20,930 --> 02:43:18,601
Thanksgiving week not only you know for

3502
02:43:22,910 --> 02:43:20,940
for me but for the country and

3503
02:43:24,980 --> 02:43:22,920
apparently for you too as well so thank

3504
02:43:28,131 --> 02:43:24,990
you for you know hanging out with us on

3505
02:43:30,860 --> 02:43:28,141
this week yeah and I want to thank you

3506
02:43:34,310 --> 02:43:30,870
for reading my tweet earlier and asking

3507
02:43:36,320 --> 02:43:34,320
mr. Dolan about the whether or not he

3508
02:43:38,841 --> 02:43:36,330
thought any world government had had

3509
02:43:41,210 --> 02:43:38,851
contact with aliens or had face-to-face

3510
02:43:42,591 --> 02:43:41,220
meetings with them oh that was you okay

3511
02:43:44,990 --> 02:43:42,601
yeah absolutely man

3512
02:43:50,600 --> 02:43:45,000
and look it shows you that I do pay

3513
02:43:53,091 --> 02:43:50,610
attention I really love your show man I

3514
02:43:56,030 --> 02:43:53,101
found it by accident on I Heart Radio

3515
02:43:57,440 --> 02:43:56,040
there about a year ago and I listened to

3516
02:44:01,190 --> 02:43:57,450
as much as I can

3517
02:44:03,801 --> 02:44:01,200
what part of Ohio are you in I'm in

3518
02:44:06,080 --> 02:44:03,811
Granville Ohio which is close to

3519
02:44:09,051 --> 02:44:06,090
Columbus okay there you go there you go

3520
02:44:09,830 --> 02:44:09,061
you know my parents were in Guyana you

3521
02:44:14,120 --> 02:44:09,840
know where that is

3522
02:44:16,341 --> 02:44:14,130
oh yeah I'm about half 15 minutes from

3523
02:44:17,960 --> 02:44:16,351
there there you go yeah they don't live

3524
02:44:22,730 --> 02:44:17,970
there anymore but I've spent a lot of

3525
02:44:24,410 --> 02:44:22,740
time in Guyana Gahanna Love Ohio alright

3526
02:44:26,810 --> 02:44:24,420
Larry well thank you so much you got

3527
02:44:30,051 --> 02:44:26,820
your plans ready for Thursday you guys

3528
02:44:32,660 --> 02:44:30,061
good to go yeah we're gonna go see the

3529
02:44:35,570 --> 02:44:32,670
Justice League oh that's a that's cool

3530
02:44:38,960 --> 02:44:35,580
well you know and and before I let you

3531
02:44:42,620 --> 02:44:38,970
go let me live vicariously through you

3532
02:44:45,350 --> 02:44:42,630
for a moment there is nothing like not

3533
02:44:47,360 --> 02:44:45,360
remember we live in you know we're in

3534
02:44:50,450 --> 02:44:47,370
Los Angeles now and we have those

3535
02:44:53,390 --> 02:44:50,460
extreme parts of the country but you

3536
02:44:55,310 --> 02:44:53,400
know middle America you know that's you

3537
02:44:58,551 --> 02:44:55,320
know husband in Chicago middle America

3538
02:45:03,170 --> 02:44:58,561
the Thanksgiving dinner what is on your

3539
02:45:05,890 --> 02:45:03,180
table give me just give me the list well

3540
02:45:08,631 --> 02:45:05,900
this year we're going to Bob Evans oh

3541
02:45:09,680 --> 02:45:08,641
you know what that's Midwestern right

3542
02:45:11,801 --> 02:45:09,690
there so you're not gonna do

3543
02:45:14,810 --> 02:45:11,811
Thanksgiving dinner at home you're gonna

3544
02:45:16,430 --> 02:45:14,820
save the cooking and the dishes for

3545
02:45:20,210 --> 02:45:16,440
another time and you're going to go to

3546
02:45:23,030 --> 02:45:20,220
Bob Evans yeah well the kids are grown

3547
02:45:24,650 --> 02:45:23,040
and they're doing their own things so my

3548
02:45:26,480 --> 02:45:24,660
wife and I are just going to go to the

3549
02:45:27,320 --> 02:45:26,490
movies and then go to Bob Evans with her

3550
02:45:30,350 --> 02:45:27,330
dad

3551
02:45:32,120 --> 02:45:30,360
nothing wrong with that bad you know you

3552
02:45:36,080 --> 02:45:32,130
know I'm gonna trip you out Larry

3553
02:45:38,600 --> 02:45:36,090
we don't have Bob Evans out here really

3554
02:45:41,810 --> 02:45:38,610
I see you're tripping it doesn't even

3555
02:45:43,850 --> 02:45:41,820
sound right does it no but you do have

3556
02:45:46,551 --> 02:45:43,860
in-n-out burger and I love that place if

3557
02:45:48,801 --> 02:45:46,561
we got in an out burger but we don't

3558
02:45:50,360 --> 02:45:48,811
have we don't have Bob Evans we don't

3559
02:45:52,220 --> 02:45:50,370
have Cracker Barrell we don't have

3560
02:45:56,420 --> 02:45:52,230
Waffle House

3561
02:46:00,610 --> 02:45:56,430
we don't have Perkins we don't have all

3562
02:46:04,960 --> 02:46:00,620
of the when like and what's that

3563
02:46:07,910 --> 02:46:04,970
what's the chili place what's it called

3564
02:46:11,270 --> 02:46:07,920
skyline skyline chili we don't have

3565
02:46:12,980 --> 02:46:11,280
Skyline Chili Men we just got a stake in

3566
02:46:16,160 --> 02:46:12,990
shake though here in Burbank

3567
02:46:18,261 --> 02:46:16,170
oh man I'm mistaken shake and it's it

3568
02:46:21,261 --> 02:46:18,271
tastes the same as it does in

3569
02:46:23,120 --> 02:46:21,271
Indianapolis which blew my mind but yeah

3570
02:46:24,980 --> 02:46:23,130
we don't have skyline chili we don't

3571
02:46:32,530 --> 02:46:24,990
have any of that stuff out here it just

3572
02:46:37,790 --> 02:46:35,810
when my family comes in from out of

3573
02:46:40,940 --> 02:46:37,800
state that's the first thing we do at

3574
02:46:43,700 --> 02:46:40,950
LAX pick them up at the airport straight

3575
02:46:45,650 --> 02:46:43,710
to in-and-out burger I mean that's it we

3576
02:46:48,080 --> 02:46:45,660
go straight there thank you so much

3577
02:46:52,310 --> 02:46:48,090
Larry and you guys have a great safe and

3578
02:46:53,930 --> 02:46:52,320
fun Thanksgiving you too man and thanks

3579
02:46:54,410 --> 02:46:53,940
for everything you do yeah Thank You

3580
02:46:58,480 --> 02:46:54,420
Larry

3581
02:47:01,850 --> 02:46:58,490
really appreciate it skyline chili that

3582
02:47:08,660 --> 02:47:01,860
I likes taking shake chili too as well

3583
02:47:15,230 --> 02:47:08,670
but skyline chili man I miss the Midwest

3584
02:47:16,551 --> 02:47:15,240
I really do when the the audience

3585
02:47:19,220 --> 02:47:16,561
listening to me right now

3586
02:47:22,700 --> 02:47:19,230
they're laughing they don't understand

3587
02:47:25,700 --> 02:47:22,710
what I am trying to say here in Los

3588
02:47:29,590 --> 02:47:25,710
Angeles you don't drive down the street

3589
02:47:32,420 --> 02:47:29,600
and see the restaurants that you have

3590
02:47:37,011 --> 02:47:32,430
throughout the rest of the country you

3591
02:47:38,630 --> 02:47:37,021
can drive through and around these these

3592
02:47:39,830 --> 02:47:38,640
great cities you know Cincinnati

3593
02:47:44,530 --> 02:47:39,840
Columbus Chicago

3594
02:47:48,139 --> 02:47:44,540
Detroit Indianapolis Minneapolis Memphis

3595
02:47:50,300 --> 02:47:48,149
Charlotte I could go on and on and on

3596
02:47:52,840 --> 02:47:50,310
all these great city and you drive

3597
02:47:56,900 --> 02:47:52,850
around and that you have these

3598
02:47:58,219 --> 02:47:56,910
restaurants one after another we don't

3599
02:48:00,500 --> 02:47:58,229
have any of that out here

3600
02:48:03,400 --> 02:48:00,510
it just doesn't exist it's really really

3601
02:48:06,380 --> 02:48:03,410
trippy now think about that you know

3602
02:48:08,690 --> 02:48:06,390
talking about Bob Evans or Cracker

3603
02:48:13,010 --> 02:48:08,700
Barrel you know they don't exist

3604
02:48:17,150 --> 02:48:13,020
Perkins Skyline Chili no it just it no

3605
02:48:20,690 --> 02:48:17,160
yeah we do have in and out and my other

3606
02:48:24,410 --> 02:48:20,700
favorite Tommy's burgers we do you know

3607
02:48:25,969 --> 02:48:24,420
we've got those but now by and large we

3608
02:48:28,219 --> 02:48:25,979
don't have that restaurant selection

3609
02:48:30,320 --> 02:48:28,229
that you guys have in the Midwest all

3610
02:48:30,770 --> 02:48:30,330
the Italian restaurants no we just don't

3611
02:48:33,560 --> 02:48:30,780
have it

3612
02:48:36,200 --> 02:48:33,570
we have Olive Garden out here right

3613
02:48:38,840 --> 02:48:36,210
which is like no there's no white

3614
02:48:42,740 --> 02:48:38,850
castle's Lawrence just posted there's no

3615
02:48:46,880 --> 02:48:42,750
white castle's think there's a Cracker

3616
02:48:49,130 --> 02:48:46,890
Barrel in Victorville is that true nurse

3617
02:48:51,980 --> 02:48:49,140
Nancy seriously there's a Cracker Barrel

3618
02:48:54,530 --> 02:48:51,990
in Victorville I did not know that but

3619
02:48:57,020 --> 02:48:54,540
yeah we don't have white castle's you

3620
02:48:59,060 --> 02:48:57,030
know what I'm gonna freak it out yeah

3621
02:49:06,429 --> 02:48:59,070
they call it the Heartland for a reason

3622
02:49:08,900 --> 02:49:06,439
Rick just tweeted White Castle out here

3623
02:49:11,240 --> 02:49:08,910
California's first Cracker Barrel is

3624
02:49:16,400 --> 02:49:11,250
coming to Greater Los Angeles is that

3625
02:49:19,550 --> 02:49:16,410
true Kate when ths posted that White

3626
02:49:21,460 --> 02:49:19,560
Castle we have to buy frozen you can get

3627
02:49:26,599 --> 02:49:21,470
it in the supermarkets here

3628
02:49:31,460 --> 02:49:26,609
frozen based on cracker barrels behavior

3629
02:49:34,490 --> 02:49:31,470
we aren't missing much skyline chili

3630
02:49:37,280 --> 02:49:34,500
with noodles and cinnamon I know Barry

3631
02:49:44,120 --> 02:49:37,290
you're absolutely right and when you

3632
02:49:46,219 --> 02:49:44,130
have if you're not used to Skyline Chili

3633
02:49:48,710 --> 02:49:46,229
the first time you taste it there's that

3634
02:49:52,460 --> 02:49:48,720
hint of cinnamon in the background and

3635
02:49:53,360 --> 02:49:52,470
it is so good you really you really get

3636
02:49:54,620 --> 02:49:53,370
used to it

3637
02:49:59,720 --> 02:49:54,630
let's stay on the phones hi you're live

3638
02:50:01,190 --> 02:49:59,730
on fade to black who's calling yeah

3639
02:50:05,360 --> 02:50:01,200
you're breaking up give it one more

3640
02:50:07,610 --> 02:50:05,370
crack who's calling this is Ryan Weiner

3641
02:50:10,070 --> 02:50:07,620
oh hey Ryan how are you man

3642
02:50:12,440 --> 02:50:10,080
hey yeah we're going doing pretty good

3643
02:50:14,630 --> 02:50:12,450
my brother Alan told me to call in we

3644
02:50:16,761 --> 02:50:14,640
were on the speaker tonight and I

3645
02:50:18,530 --> 02:50:16,771
figured I'd give it a shot and I got

3646
02:50:20,780 --> 02:50:18,540
through right on right on

3647
02:50:23,210 --> 02:50:20,790
I'm still waiting for your two videos

3648
02:50:25,250 --> 02:50:23,220
man you never sent them to well it hey

3649
02:50:27,110 --> 02:50:25,260
I'm in Sacramento I was I kind of want

3650
02:50:29,540 --> 02:50:27,120
to give them to you personally if that's

3651
02:50:32,210 --> 02:50:29,550
possible I'm working and living in

3652
02:50:34,730 --> 02:50:32,220
Sacramento now so kind of weird but well

3653
02:50:36,680 --> 02:50:34,740
that's uh that's eight hours away but

3654
02:50:40,580 --> 02:50:36,690
well here's the thing I'm headed that

3655
02:50:42,770 --> 02:50:40,590
way this coming week to Vegas and I was

3656
02:50:45,080 --> 02:50:42,780
thinking maybe on my way to Vegas I

3657
02:50:48,110 --> 02:50:45,090
could come and bring him by personally

3658
02:50:50,240 --> 02:50:48,120
okay well yeah well we'll see what we

3659
02:50:53,960 --> 02:50:50,250
can do with that all right all right

3660
02:50:55,670 --> 02:50:53,970
yeah yeah we'll talk about that on the

3661
02:50:58,011 --> 02:50:55,680
air but yeah I do want to check out

3662
02:51:02,000 --> 02:50:58,021
these next two videos there right this

3663
02:51:06,530 --> 02:51:02,010
is Ryan everybody that shot the the

3664
02:51:08,660 --> 02:51:06,540
object up at ESET e ranch that we posted

3665
02:51:10,850 --> 02:51:08,670
that video of and he's got two more

3666
02:51:12,620 --> 02:51:10,860
videos that I've been waiting to see I

3667
02:51:16,670 --> 02:51:12,630
haven't seen him yet are they as great

3668
02:51:19,341 --> 02:51:16,680
as the first one yeah well there's

3669
02:51:23,630 --> 02:51:19,351
there's moving objects and the other

3670
02:51:26,630 --> 02:51:23,640
videos that I have yeah it's it's

3671
02:51:29,030 --> 02:51:26,640
amazing when I caught all that day I

3672
02:51:30,620 --> 02:51:29,040
just you know I just noticed them later

3673
02:51:33,890 --> 02:51:30,630
after I went through them with my

3674
02:51:36,350 --> 02:51:33,900
brothers and by myself right right and

3675
02:51:39,830 --> 02:51:36,360
so you're in Sacramento where were you

3676
02:51:42,110 --> 02:51:39,840
before Sacramento uh Tacoma that's

3677
02:51:44,301 --> 02:51:42,120
working because we're talking about

3678
02:51:47,410 --> 02:51:44,311
restaurants right now Tacoma great

3679
02:51:49,940 --> 02:51:47,420
restaurants you know what's weird

3680
02:51:53,990 --> 02:51:49,950
Sacramento's got great restaurants it's

3681
02:51:57,051 --> 02:51:54,000
like the opposite of Los Angeles yeah I

3682
02:52:04,460 --> 02:51:57,061
tried this a Mills diner it's where they

3683
02:52:07,190 --> 02:52:04,470
filmed graffiti Oh American Graffiti yes

3684
02:52:07,390 --> 02:52:07,200
American Graffiti yeah I went there that

3685
02:52:09,730 --> 02:52:07,400
was

3686
02:52:13,331 --> 02:52:09,740
great there's a bunch of old old cars

3687
02:52:15,400 --> 02:52:13,341
out front is this pretty sweet yeah we

3688
02:52:18,881 --> 02:52:15,410
have Mel's Diner down here too as well

3689
02:52:21,671 --> 02:52:18,891
read it I ate there uh about a month ago

3690
02:52:22,751 --> 02:52:21,681
there's one not too far from us here in

3691
02:52:26,621 --> 02:52:22,761
Burbank

3692
02:52:31,421 --> 02:52:26,631
so oh no that's that's a great

3693
02:52:32,831 --> 02:52:31,431
restaurant and Rita's I'm wondering what

3694
02:52:35,501 --> 02:52:32,841
we're gonna do after the show tonight

3695
02:52:37,841 --> 02:52:35,511
for food now we're all hungry so

3696
02:52:39,011 --> 02:52:37,851
somebody just posted Colorado has no

3697
02:52:41,410 --> 02:52:39,021
jack-in-the-box

3698
02:52:44,410 --> 02:52:41,420
well you're not missing much there

3699
02:52:46,301 --> 02:52:44,420
Jordan you know but you always want what

3700
02:52:49,751 --> 02:52:46,311
you can't have right so I guess a

3701
02:52:55,660 --> 02:52:53,261
I actually I still have a place and live

3702
02:52:57,700 --> 02:52:55,670
at a place in Montana I'm just on the

3703
02:53:01,720 --> 02:52:57,710
road working but I haven't been to my

3704
02:53:03,341 --> 02:53:01,730
place in a about five weeks now but yeah

3705
02:53:07,301 --> 02:53:03,351
we don't have a jack-in-the-box in

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02:53:09,700 --> 02:53:07,311
Montana either so yeah somebody just

3707
02:53:12,190 --> 02:53:09,710
said do you have Carabas out here I know

3708
02:53:15,100 --> 02:53:12,200
that there was a Carabas in in Las Vegas

3709
02:53:17,350 --> 02:53:15,110
I don't remember a Carabas here in in

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02:53:20,950 --> 02:53:17,360
Southern California not that I remember

3711
02:53:23,440 --> 02:53:20,960
but there you go so y'all is that I'm

3712
02:53:25,570 --> 02:53:23,450
planning on taking a trip up there again

3713
02:53:29,171 --> 02:53:25,580
and my plan is go up there it's my

3714
02:53:31,720 --> 02:53:29,181
younger brother Justin and try and hike

3715
02:53:34,301 --> 02:53:31,730
up to Mount Adams and try and get to the

3716
02:53:37,631 --> 02:53:34,311
to the cave we'll probably have to wait

3717
02:53:41,371 --> 02:53:37,641
until the summer time but really the

3718
02:53:44,410 --> 02:53:41,381
next plan for for me yeah we have that

3719
02:53:47,081 --> 02:53:44,420
yeah we have a big event that we're

3720
02:53:49,660 --> 02:53:47,091
gonna be doing up there next August at

3721
02:53:51,251 --> 02:53:49,670
ISA DIA fade to black event and so

3722
02:53:53,470 --> 02:53:51,261
you'll have to be there for that that's

3723
02:53:56,501 --> 02:53:53,480
going to be a pretty well yeah it's

3724
02:53:58,270 --> 02:53:56,511
gonna be pretty good all right all right

3725
02:54:02,171 --> 02:53:58,280
Ryan well thank you so much you all set

3726
02:54:04,841 --> 02:54:02,181
up for Thanksgiving this Thursday yeah

3727
02:54:07,541 --> 02:54:04,851
yeah I'm headed back to Tacoma actually

3728
02:54:10,121 --> 02:54:07,551
my mother and brothers are all gonna be

3729
02:54:12,820 --> 02:54:10,131
meeting there so and then after that

3730
02:54:15,011 --> 02:54:12,830
it's a family reunion in Las Vegas so

3731
02:54:15,910 --> 02:54:15,021
it's pretty we got a lot of stuff going

3732
02:54:19,180 --> 02:54:15,920
on right now

3733
02:54:21,011 --> 02:54:19,190
all right well I look forward to seeing

3734
02:54:23,110 --> 02:54:21,021
these two videos so

3735
02:54:25,661 --> 02:54:23,120
be safe traveling to Las Vegas and we'll

3736
02:54:27,730 --> 02:54:25,671
talk off the air about that Thanks

3737
02:54:30,011 --> 02:54:27,740
sounds great yeah Thank You Ryan

3738
02:54:33,100 --> 02:54:30,021
again be safe out there in your travels

3739
02:54:35,801 --> 02:54:33,110
that video that he shot up at he said he

3740
02:54:38,100 --> 02:54:35,811
is a mind bender and if you haven't seen

3741
02:54:42,190 --> 02:54:38,110
it just go to our YouTube channel and

3742
02:54:44,621 --> 02:54:42,200
and and check it out but that that is an

3743
02:54:48,671 --> 02:54:44,631
amazing video and he caught that well

3744
02:54:50,801 --> 02:54:48,681
okay so that wraps another episode of

3745
02:54:53,470 --> 02:54:50,811
fade to black I do want to thank Richard

3746
02:54:56,711 --> 02:54:53,480
Dolan tonight for coming in and doing

3747
02:54:58,810 --> 02:54:56,721
what he does best which is spread the

3748
02:55:01,480 --> 02:54:58,820
knowledge he is just the most

3749
02:55:03,520 --> 02:55:01,490
fascinating person to talk to and if you

3750
02:55:05,051 --> 02:55:03,530
ever get a chance to hang out with

3751
02:55:08,320 --> 02:55:05,061
Richard he has hung out with the fader

3752
02:55:10,301 --> 02:55:08,330
knots a lot and just sat and and talked

3753
02:55:12,551 --> 02:55:10,311
but if you ever get a chance to do that

3754
02:55:15,850 --> 02:55:12,561
I strongly suggest that you do his

3755
02:55:18,761 --> 02:55:15,860
website is Richard Dolan press.com

3756
02:55:23,110 --> 02:55:18,771
and when you go you will see that he is

3757
02:55:25,631 --> 02:55:23,120
revamping the website and it is the

3758
02:55:28,871 --> 02:55:25,641
holes are there you can see where he is

3759
02:55:31,890 --> 02:55:28,881
going in 2018 very excited about that

3760
02:55:35,411 --> 02:55:31,900
and looking forward to his new book

3761
02:55:37,751 --> 02:55:35,421
tomorrow night we are moving Fator night

3762
02:55:40,270 --> 02:55:37,761
to tomorrow night Wednesday Thursday

3763
02:55:43,060 --> 02:55:40,280
night we are taking off it is

3764
02:55:45,011 --> 02:55:43,070
Thanksgiving so tomorrow night is Fator

3765
02:55:47,350 --> 02:55:45,021
night open lines all night long

3766
02:55:51,220 --> 02:55:47,360
Jon Rappoport has taken the week off

3767
02:55:53,320 --> 02:55:51,230
will see John next week on fit on on

3768
02:55:55,661 --> 02:55:53,330
Fator night on Thursday night but

3769
02:55:58,690 --> 02:55:55,671
tomorrow night I do want to hear from

3770
02:56:02,261 --> 02:55:58,700
all of you so we'll have a couple of a

3771
02:56:04,541 --> 02:56:02,271
surprise friends stop by and hang out

3772
02:56:05,020 --> 02:56:04,551
but it's gonna be open lines all night

3773
02:56:06,940 --> 02:56:05,030
long

3774
02:56:09,581 --> 02:56:06,950
let's just talk food let's talk

3775
02:56:11,081 --> 02:56:09,591
Thanksgiving what are we thankful for of

3776
02:56:14,081 --> 02:56:11,091
course the paranormal and the

3777
02:56:16,060 --> 02:56:14,091
supernatural are always there for a

3778
02:56:20,020 --> 02:56:16,070
phone call but we'll be doing that all

3779
02:56:22,631 --> 02:56:20,030
night tomorrow night and there you go so

3780
02:56:24,610 --> 02:56:22,641
let me get out of here I do want to

3781
02:56:25,841 --> 02:56:24,620
thank everybody for tweeting tonight and

3782
02:56:29,440 --> 02:56:25,851
all the phone calls

3783
02:56:31,091 --> 02:56:29,450
this is fade to black and and man it's

3784
02:56:32,621 --> 02:56:31,101
it's my favorite night of the week's

3785
02:56:34,600 --> 02:56:32,631
gonna kick off tomorrow

3786
02:56:37,150 --> 02:56:34,610
painted blacks executive producers

3787
02:56:40,421 --> 02:56:37,160
komari on shows produced by Hilton Jay

3788
02:56:42,490 --> 02:56:40,431
Paul and Rene thank you to Dennis and

3789
02:56:45,820 --> 02:56:42,500
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3790
02:56:49,211 --> 02:56:45,830
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3791
02:56:52,961 --> 02:56:49,221
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3792
02:56:55,440 --> 02:56:52,971
space boys space boy music.com fade to

3793
02:57:01,360 --> 02:56:55,450
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3794
02:57:03,310 --> 02:57:01,370
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3795
02:57:05,110 --> 02:57:03,320
to Richard Dolan and everyone who called

3796
02:57:07,240 --> 02:57:05,120
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3797
02:57:09,461 --> 02:57:07,250
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02:57:11,711 --> 02:57:09,471
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3799
02:57:13,690 --> 02:57:11,721
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3800
02:57:15,700 --> 02:57:13,700
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02:57:18,730 --> 02:57:15,710
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3802
02:57:20,740 --> 02:57:18,740
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3803
02:57:23,261 --> 02:57:20,750
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3804
02:57:25,870 --> 02:57:23,271
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3805
02:57:28,541 --> 02:57:25,880
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3806
02:57:35,930 --> 02:57:28,551
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